[3.10] Bashtart's SPARK INQUISITOR * farming like a god! :)

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Kirbynou wrote:
Hello there,

I'm playing a bit with your build on PoB and Trickster or even Assassin seems to be constantly above Inquisitor (by far)

I know you pick Inquisitor mostly for Life Regen with consecrated ground, but I don't really see how ~300hp/s more regen will change radicaly the build. I guess it's not the same in game, with pantheon and your build what regen should we be expecting ? 1000hp/s ? same as an eternal flask ? more/less ?

My goal is to speedfarm obviously for leveling past 95, doing boss with BV/Tendrils is like 1% of timeplay. I don't really see where consecrated ground can challenge power/frenzy charges generation and others buff (movement speed, free movement skill, etc...). I don't even take into consideration other talents, crit and penetration should be approximatively at the same level between specs in term of dps.

What am I missing ?

Look... PoB is complex and depending on your settings it can have completely different results. Normally nothing can compare with inquisitor because crits ignore enemies resistances. The reggen is more or less doubled because of Mind of Matter.

When you ask me something about PoB please always post the PoB file so I can check it out... otherwise I just cannot say anything about it. Also have you considered that PoB only shows dps per spark hit. So in theory you need to multiple it with your cast per second, etc. Sometime numbers are just numbers.

Cheers Bash
[3.2] Bashtart's Spark Inquisitor: https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1838569
[3.2] Oni-Goroshi Frost Blades Trickster: https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/2077486
Last edited by bashtart on May 2, 2018, 11:54:29 AM
Thanks Bash,

I know numbers are just numbers, that's why I wanted to have more feedback about life regen in real situation (which is the main purpose of picking Inqui).

For my tests, with the exact same stuff (classic random stuff, but doesn't really matter to compare between builds so not 100% optimized, cast/second is equivalent between build)

Ranked by dps :

Trickster : https://pastebin.com/fX94iSzT
Assassin : https://pastebin.com/6d4wENmX
Inquisitor : https://pastebin.com/2S1pixDZ
Ascendant : https://pastebin.com/5a4PDxnb

Inquisitor is above ascendant just when we are on consecrated ground
Trickster loose a bit of freez/shock potential with chaos damage part, gain free movement but I guess it's not a problem with the mana regen of the build.
Assassin seems better on paper, specially with power charge generation and crit chance, maybe on high end bosses penetration can take back the first place ? (not the goal to farm boss however) and we loose the regen part, relying only on flasks / gameplay.

I know some class have more passive point than others (power charges mainly) but it just to have a global idea before picking one for flashback ;)

Ps : Your guide is really nice and for now I think I will test inqui version just to have my own idea on the regen part
Last edited by Kirbynou on May 3, 2018, 12:06:18 PM
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Kirbynou wrote:
Thanks Bash,

I know numbers are just numbers, that's why I wanted to have more feedback about life regen in real situation (which is the main purpose of picking Inqui).

For my tests, with the exact same stuff (classic random stuff, but doesn't really matter to compare between builds so not 100% optimized, cast/second is equivalent between build)

Ranked by dps :

Trickster : https://pastebin.com/fX94iSzT
Assassin : https://pastebin.com/6d4wENmX
Inquisitor : https://pastebin.com/2S1pixDZ
Ascendant : https://pastebin.com/5a4PDxnb

Inquisitor is above ascendant just when we are on consecrated ground
Trickster loose a bit of freez/shock potential with chaos damage part, gain free movement but I guess it's not a problem with the mana regen of the build.
Assassin seems better on paper, specially with power charge generation and crit chance, maybe on high end bosses penetration can take back the first place ? (not the goal to farm boss however) and we loose the regen part, relying only on flasks / gameplay.

I know some class have more passive point than others (power charges mainly) but it just to have a global idea before picking one for flashback ;)

Ps : Your guide is really nice and for now I think I will test inqui version just to have my own idea on the regen part


Well I just added a few points to the inquistor and also used frenzy and power charges.
Inquisitor: https://pastebin.com/WuS8qhkg (199,4k Spark dps, 186,4k against Shaper)
Trickster : https://pastebin.com/fX94iSzT (243k Spark dps, 183,9K against Shaper)

So just from the dps numbers both versions seems to be pretty much evan but from my expierence the inquisitor dps feel in game much better because we more or less always crit and ignore enemies resistances. Additionally we get the life/energy/mana regen what is really powerful with MoM.

For clearspeed a high crit chance is really important because with crit you will shatter whole packs with HoI what is another advantage of inquisitor.

I think especially Trickser might also be a viable option after the ascendancy rework but I still think Inquisitor is best.
[3.2] Bashtart's Spark Inquisitor: https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1838569
[3.2] Oni-Goroshi Frost Blades Trickster: https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/2077486
Last edited by bashtart on May 3, 2018, 4:15:24 PM
Yeah seems fair that Inqui is smoother in game :)

And I totally forgot about "Overcharged", thanks for your input !

Last question : about Hazardous Research, between your guide and your build you took out one of them (I guess in favor of The Long Winter for boss fight). I saw people running with 1 or 2 a bit randomly..

What's your opinion about it, worth to keep 2 or a big damage one may be better ?
Last edited by Kirbynou on May 3, 2018, 5:37:54 PM
I am really interested in this build.
How about using elementalist to play this build?
Taking "Pendulum of Destruction", "Mastermind of Discord" & "Paragon of Calamity" / "Beacon of Ruin"?
Sorry, I cannot use POB well...
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Kirbynou wrote:
Yeah seems fair that Inqui is smoother in game :)

And I totally forgot about "Overcharged", thanks for your input !

Last question : about Hazardous Research, between your guide and your build you took out one of them (I guess in favor of The Long Winter for boss fight). I saw people running with 1 or 2 a bit randomly..

What's your opinion about it, worth to keep 2 or a big damage one may be better ?

Import your stuff to PoB and check what goves your more dps :)

@chocodisco: yes elementalist should be a very viable option for this build. A while ago I made already a Elementalist version of this build. Yes I would go first MoD and then BoR.
[3.2] Bashtart's Spark Inquisitor: https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1838569
[3.2] Oni-Goroshi Frost Blades Trickster: https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/2077486
for lightning tendril and glacial cascade single target setup why would you use 2 gem slots on glacial cascade & CWC instead of gems to make LT deal more damage/leech life so you can just sit and facetank everything
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Zoltek62 wrote:
for lightning tendril and glacial cascade single target setup why would you use 2 gem slots on glacial cascade & CWC instead of gems to make LT deal more damage/leech life so you can just sit and facetank everything

From the testing I did back then the LT CWC GC setup was just straight up better in any way... but feel free to test it yourself.

I think I will overwork this build for 3.3 anyway...
[3.2] Bashtart's Spark Inquisitor: https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1838569
[3.2] Oni-Goroshi Frost Blades Trickster: https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/2077486
How many Chaos resist you have ?? because i use the same gear and my Chaos sux so much i got kill easy by chos mobs.
Is it better to switch bc and spark in the 6 link when fighting boss or should i keep the bv in a 4 link item ? Since I dont have any shaper or elder items yet.
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