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goetzjam wrote:
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Pizzarugi wrote:
If you've used poe.trade for any reason, you've engaged in using an AH, albeit with less QoL features. It'd be no different if you fully implemented it into the game, except you're no longer at the whim of AFK players, scammers and DDoS downtime.
Poe.trade is a marketplace, not an auction house. The overall encompassing terminology for a trade system is: trade system, not AH, auction house is a very specific implementation of a trade system.
You can no longer be at the whim of afk players, dnd ect if they simply improve the API.
DDOS downtime? Like that one or two days he had issues?
Click to buy should never be a system in any ARPG game, because it trivializes loot acquisition, which is the ONLY remaining endgame in a game like this, if you already have the gear you have no reason to play anymore.
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The easier trading gets the less your items will be worth, can't you see that? It works in WoW because they have bound items, it won't work here.
Not only that it is a different game completely. Best items in WOW are from like raids and shit, there isnt a single thing in poe item wise that you can't trade for.
Even marvel heros, which has an AH has soul bound items, its a fundamental thing to balance trade, along with changing where you can get the best items from.
People don't understand this, they just want instant gratification and want to get currency for no effort, as if the speed clear meta wasnt enough for them already, gotta make everything go as fast as it.
AH isn't trading with players, its interacting with an interface, there isn't any depth, meaning or purpose of having trading at that point. Why not just give everyone level 90 characters, with whatever gear they want.
I play Guild Wars 2, I'm all in favor of account/soulbound items if it means preventing AH from gouging market prices. There's always a balance. All I care about is the ability to trade whenever I want, even when I or other people are offline.
PoE players: Our game has a wide diversity of builds.
Also PoE players: The [league mechanic] doesn't need to be nerfed, you just need to play a [current meta] build!
And the winds will cry / and many men will die / and all the waves will bow down / to the Loreley
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Posted byPizzarugi#6258on Feb 18, 2017, 7:12:37 PM
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Pizzarugi wrote:
I play Guild Wars 2, I'm all in favor of account/soulbound items if it means preventing AH from gouging market prices. There's always a balance. All I care about is the ability to trade whenever I want, even when I or other people are offline.
Then play MMORPG games not Online ARPG games.
You've been well aware of the system we have now and the intention of the devs to never add such a system to reward no work, low effort acquisition of items from other players.
https://youtu.be/T9kygXtkh10?t=285
FeelsBadMan
Remove MF from POE, make juiced map the new MF.
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Posted bygoetzjam#3084on Feb 18, 2017, 8:04:32 PM
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goetzjam wrote:
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Pizzarugi wrote:
I play Guild Wars 2, I'm all in favor of account/soulbound items if it means preventing AH from gouging market prices. There's always a balance. All I care about is the ability to trade whenever I want, even when I or other people are offline.
Then play MMORPG games not Online ARPG games.
You've been well aware of the system we have now and the intention of the devs to never add such a system to reward no work, low effort acquisition of items from other players.
Yeak, Pizzarugi! This is Goatzjam's game here. Nothing happens without HIS approval! Nobody is allowed to make suggestions without running it by HIM first! :)
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Posted byDeletedon Feb 18, 2017, 8:10:58 PM
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Pizzarugi wrote:
If you've used poe.trade for any reason, you've engaged in using an AH, albeit with less QoL features. It'd be no different if you fully implemented it into the game, except you're no longer at the whim of AFK players, scammers and DDoS downtime.
Who are you to open their eyes , not cool man not cool . /s
@goetzjam
Loot aquisition problem can be easily fixed by increasing the TERRIBAD droprates in this game , there you go . As long as you don't have stuff that are stupidly rare , you have no issue whatsoever .
The game should be about having fun PLAYING , not waiting to have fun while farming dumb orbs .
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Posted byBestMageKR#3826on Feb 18, 2017, 8:54:52 PM
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BestMageKR wrote:
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Pizzarugi wrote:
If you've used poe.trade for any reason, you've engaged in using an AH, albeit with less QoL features. It'd be no different if you fully implemented it into the game, except you're no longer at the whim of AFK players, scammers and DDoS downtime.
Who are you to open their eyes , not cool man not cool . /s
@goetzjam
Loot aquisition problem can be easily fixed by increasing the TERRIBAD droprates in this game , there you go . As long as you don't have stuff that are stupidly rare , you have no issue whatsoever .
The game should be about having fun PLAYING , not waiting to have fun while farming dumb orbs .
This game should be about it being true to the hardcore ARPG game ideals, not free loot pinitas. You might have fun getting a super cheap shavs, but the game is overall worst because of it.
Terrible drop rates? Where the fuck have you been the drop rates and item acqusition of all but like t0 items are the highest they've ever been and it utterly ruins the game, not just in terms of balance, but longer term goals.
Pretty sure we don't need advise on the games drop rates and trade from someone that has been playing for like 5 months.
https://youtu.be/T9kygXtkh10?t=285
FeelsBadMan
Remove MF from POE, make juiced map the new MF.
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Posted bygoetzjam#3084on Feb 18, 2017, 11:00:06 PM
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Yeah! Who wants to have fun playing a video game when it should be a job replacement activity.
Stop wanting to have a fun challenging game, you guys. It's about grinding orbs 10 levels below you and shopping for your loot on xyz. Right, Goatz?
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Posted byDeletedon Feb 18, 2017, 11:19:36 PM
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SSF is not and will never be a standard for balance, it is not for people entitled to getting more without trading. Last edited by Fruz#6137 on Feb 18, 2017, 11:28:08 PM
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Posted byFruz#6137on Feb 18, 2017, 11:24:28 PM
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Havin't the trading system outside of the game however, is bad imho.
SSF is not and will never be a standard for balance, it is not for people entitled to getting more without trading.
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Posted byFruz#6137on Feb 18, 2017, 11:25:03 PM
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The_Reporter wrote:
Yeah! Who wants to have fun playing a video game when it should be a job replacement activity.
Stop wanting to have a fun challenging game, you guys. It's about grinding orbs 10 levels below you and shopping for your loot on xyz. Right, Goatz?
Job replacement?
How about depth and meaning, where you know some people enjoy working towards stuff instead of just being handed to them.
I mean we know from your lab discussions that you rather just have everything handed to you.
https://youtu.be/T9kygXtkh10?t=285
FeelsBadMan
Remove MF from POE, make juiced map the new MF.
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Posted bygoetzjam#3084on Feb 18, 2017, 11:47:54 PM
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I play SSF, young fellow. Nothing is handed to me.
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Posted byDeletedon Feb 18, 2017, 11:55:08 PM
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