Path of Exile: The Fall of Oriath

Cant belive that this is happening! Now i know where the investment went. Now i doubt that anyone will continue complaining about xbox version. Thank you soo much for all the expansions that have been released. Cant wait for the support pack to show my love for u guys!
▒ █▒█▒█ █▀▀█ █▀▀▀   ▒ IN THE JOURNEY TO BECOMING
▒ █▒█▒█ █▄▄█ █ ▄▄  ▒ A MASTER FISHERMAN...
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▒                    ▒ TELL ME WHAT IS YOUR FISH?
▒   Winding Pier fame    ▒ ~Sartador
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Hruthgard wrote:
I just have to repeat my rage and anger here again, already did in reddit with the only getting the thread deleted.

"Wow what a insane amount of content with 3.0!

I FIRST thought thats 11/10!! But THEN i witnessed the STUPID DUMB NAZI-STYLE affilation with the monster design (badges on the arm and the colors + symbol on the banners) WHY??? CAN TH WORLD FINALLY STOP TO RIDICULE MY GERMAN HISTORY TO GARBAGE CONTENT LIKE THIS IN A FUCKING ARPG THAT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH REALLIFE AT ALL! WHY DO I HAVE TO SEE THIS CRAP ALL MY LIFE IN ALL THE STUFF FROM BIRTH TO DEATH FROM ALL SIDES TO EVERY TIME IN EVERYTHING I DO AND LOVE, FOR GODS SAKE STOP INSULTING ME WITH OFFENSIVE POLITICAL MESSAGES AND STATEMENTS IN VIDEOGAMES AND STOP TO TRAVESTY MY BELOVED GERMAN HISTORY YOU PEOPLE NEVER EVER REALLY LEARNED ABOUT EXCEPT YOUR DUMB SCHOOL BOOKS.

Iam one of the most dedicated PoE player and fan but this is just the most disappointing thing for me, as a german, to see in a videogame or movie etc. Its just ridiculous and angers me to a point that i dont want to play the game anymore AND I SUPPORTED THE GAME WITH MORE THAN 4k EUROS! Only to see the all time bad nazis (as usual displayed as cannibals/baby eater and inhuman beast) in my fucking all time favourite arpg....are you kidding me...cant you think of something original instead of holywood propaganda stuff!! I cant fucking believe it...

0/11

In gods name, REMOVE the connection in the art to the national socialist movement! Stay in the weird wraeclast lore and dont mix that shit up with modern history politics who are completely distorted and biased by the media and liberal politics! GET FUCKING REAL THAT IS NO JOKE! WHO HAD THIS STUPID IDEA!??

I cant belive that......what are you doing... feeding all the mindless fools with even more propaganda about the lie stories about the national socialism in a subtile and destructive kind that its unbearable for me or people who have actual knowledge about german history and the second world war, for gods sake, remove that dumb art!

BUT PLEASE GGG REMOVE THE DUMB "NAZI" BADGES FROM THE ENEMIES AND THE HILARIOUS "NAZI" STYLE BANNERS, for real, iam from germany and it cranks me to see such stuff used in a game.."


I dont want to personaly attack anyone but that was my first respond after i have seen the screenshots and video of the expansion.


Are you serious GGG?
Now this monster and bad dudes in PoE are nazis and all the tortured and exterminated sacrifices/people are jews or what, kidding me!?



??? And other stuff like deformed german eagle or misformed banner. If this stuff is really penetrating my view ingame i will deinstall PoE and quit. Don't ridicule my german heritage and history by putting offensive political views into a arpg, that sickens me and many many friends of mine who also play PoE and pleadged so much money into it. GGG please consider to remove the badges from the monster arms and other affilated stuff. Thats not fun and totaly serious!




Yeah, German Nazi is just hollywood propaganda. Nazi came from space not from germany. Lel. Anyway noone care about ur QQ about "insulting you by putting nazi-like stuff in game"
Greetings from Poland.

Btw GGG you just made me to stay with PoE instead trying Revelation Online (which I was wating for for 6 months)
Not sure if this has been touched on yet but with the removal of cruel and merc whats going to happen with ascendancy?
IGN: DigresiveSin
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Androsity wrote:
Not sure if this has been touched on yet but with the removal of cruel and merc whats going to happen with ascendancy?



Probably be distributed throughout the acts (mostly act 3 and 8 since that is where it belongs), so who knows if they drop a labyrinth and redistributed those points to the remaining ones. Maybe 3-3-2 format.
Sometimes you can take the game out of the garage but you can't take the garage out of the game.
- raics, 06.08.2016

sooo... whats going to happen to the goddess bound? wasnt the messages only going to be from merc and on? so if we go to 10 acts does that change the sword? or do we just miss out if we didnt get in before? just wanting to know because I finnaly have the sword parts and was debating on makeing a new char for fun or for the sword.
3.0 has me very excited. I haven't been able to play this game very much because my ISP is some kind of hateful cult. Something like 3.0 encourages me to (try to) fix my situation within the next few months.

I think Hruthgard needs to do a bit of research on these Nazis he seems to be so afraid of. Just like how the vast majority of modern Americans know nothing about the Civil War, the vast majority of modern Germans have no connections to the Nazis, and there are even laws in place enforcing the latter (to an extent).

The so-called Neo-Nazis are mere posers at best. Many of their numbers are actually the volatile younger generation looking for mindless "change" at any cost. Dangerous posers.
Last edited by RAYDESTRUCT on Feb 15, 2017, 8:02:34 PM
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Hruthgard wrote:
I just have to repeat my rage and anger here again, already did in reddit with the only getting the thread deleted.

"Wow what a insane amount of content with 3.0!

I FIRST thought thats 11/10!! But THEN i witnessed the STUPID DUMB NAZI-STYLE affilation with the monster design (badges on the arm and the colors + symbol on the banners) WHY??? CAN TH WORLD FINALLY STOP TO RIDICULE MY GERMAN HISTORY TO GARBAGE CONTENT LIKE THIS IN A FUCKING ARPG THAT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH REALLIFE AT ALL! WHY DO I HAVE TO SEE THIS CRAP ALL MY LIFE IN ALL THE STUFF FROM BIRTH TO DEATH FROM ALL SIDES TO EVERY TIME IN EVERYTHING I DO AND LOVE, FOR GODS SAKE STOP INSULTING ME WITH OFFENSIVE POLITICAL MESSAGES AND STATEMENTS IN VIDEOGAMES AND STOP TO TRAVESTY MY BELOVED GERMAN HISTORY YOU PEOPLE NEVER EVER REALLY LEARNED ABOUT EXCEPT YOUR DUMB SCHOOL BOOKS.

Iam one of the most dedicated PoE player and fan but this is just the most disappointing thing for me, as a german, to see in a videogame or movie etc. Its just ridiculous and angers me to a point that i dont want to play the game anymore AND I SUPPORTED THE GAME WITH MORE THAN 4k EUROS! Only to see the all time bad nazis (as usual displayed as cannibals/baby eater and inhuman beast) in my fucking all time favourite arpg....are you kidding me...cant you think of something original instead of holywood propaganda stuff!! I cant fucking believe it...

0/11

In gods name, REMOVE the connection in the art to the national socialist movement! Stay in the weird wraeclast lore and dont mix that shit up with modern history politics who are completely distorted and biased by the media and liberal politics! GET FUCKING REAL THAT IS NO JOKE! WHO HAD THIS STUPID IDEA!??

I cant belive that......what are you doing... feeding all the mindless fools with even more propaganda about the lie stories about the national socialism in a subtile and destructive kind that its unbearable for me or people who have actual knowledge about german history and the second world war, for gods sake, remove that dumb art!

BUT PLEASE GGG REMOVE THE DUMB "NAZI" BADGES FROM THE ENEMIES AND THE HILARIOUS "NAZI" STYLE BANNERS, for real, iam from germany and it cranks me to see such stuff used in a game.."


I dont want to personaly attack anyone but that was my first respond after i have seen the screenshots and video of the expansion.


Are you serious GGG?
Now this monster and bad dudes in PoE are nazis and all the tortured and exterminated sacrifices/people are jews or what, kidding me!?



??? And other stuff like deformed german eagle or misformed banner. If this stuff is really penetrating my view ingame i will deinstall PoE and quit. Don't ridicule my german heritage and history by putting offensive political views into a arpg, that sickens me and many many friends of mine who also play PoE and pleadged so much money into it. GGG please consider to remove the badges from the monster arms and other affilated stuff. Thats not fun and totaly serious!



This is the first time I'm replying on the forum, but I felt this was important enough.

ANYONE WHO CARES NOT FOR SOME HISTORY AND POLITICS, JUST SKIP OVER, IT'S ALRIGHT. :)

I'll start by saying that, on the one hand, I love this game and its ever-changing mechanics and challenges, and, on the other hand, am slightly annoyed at it possibly taking a turn into "everything's a nazi!"
In fact, this is virtually the only computer game I'm currently interested in playing (with the exceptions of some roguelikes), and the mostly sudden introduction of nazis (Piety was very foreshadowing) feels to me like it somewhat cheapens the deal.
I hope the Roman Empire symbolism will help balance the flavors.

The whole matter is personal to me, too. I am a person of mixed heritage, with most of my family being Jewish of various European descents, part of my family being of German descent, and another part being of Irish descent. Both my Irish and German roots are either religious or non-religious Christian.
I was born and raised in Israel, a country that often frustrates me greatly, here as I care for the people - Jewish and non-Jewish - that are in my life.

As far as "more and more nazis" is concerned,
some of the things that frustrate me most in this country of mine are all those many instances where nazi symbolism, words and concepts are cheaply used. They're used too quickly to insult and dehumanize groups or individuals, to raise frantic alarm on subjects, to excuse horrible behavior (because it's ok if it's against "a nazi"), or just to randomly evoke powerful emotions.
Use of this symbolism doesn't bother me all the time. It bothers me when it becomes glaringly inappropriate (I'm a sucker for Holocaust jokes, but at the right places and times), or when it's fully hypocritical.

For example, it bothers me greatly when a political or ideological rival can be named a "nazi" in the blink of an eye (whether German, Jewish, Arab or whatever), as happened often against our only assassinated prime minister. It bothers me most when our government takes credit for itself on maintaining a country which "protects" Jewish Holocaust survivors - yet it also allows one third of them to stay beneath the poverty line, while the rich in our country get richer.

So, yes, I've heard enough about nazis, and very often not for any good reason.
It'll be a great shame if the game's aesthetic becomes pointlessly tasteless.

However,
some things here really have to be taken into proportions.

First and foremost, historically, this really isn't about you or me. Between one Polish writer in this thread who already stated his opinion, and the countless other people and peoples affected by Nazi Germany (or WW2 in general), everybody has a say and privileges to make use of this Human history as they see fit.

Secondly, you wrote "Now this monster and bad dudes in PoE are nazis and all the tortured and exterminated sacrifices/people are jews or what, kidding me!?"

This bothers me on two levels:
One is that you write as if it's only the Jewish people that were massacred (or enslaved in work camps) by the nazis. You neglect to mention the hundreds of thousands or several million Roma ("gypsies") who were slaughtered beside them, or your own German people if they were disabled, homosexual, or if they chose to remain married to "inferior" spouses, as a few examples.
The other part that bothers me is that my country's policy is probably a lot of the reason it is remembered that way. I've had to remind many people that the nazis imprisoned and slaughtered many in the name of eugenics and purity (which GGG seem highly aware of :) ) before coming down murderously on the Jews and the Roma. Yet, sadly, in our Israeli education system we don't go to great lengths to teach it.

(If there are or were any doubts, btw, almost every single person I know of Jewish European descent did have chunks of his or her family tree chopped off in the Holocaust.
Myself included. Just like that.
I don't personally know any Romani people, so I can't speak of any stories I've heard face to face.)

Nevertheless, this is not a history that either you or I are personally responsible for. Unless you sympathize with NS ideology, I think this isn't something you should take too deeply. Germany and its people are a lot more than that horrible period. GGG is dealing with "nazis", but, so far - they are not German. They are puritanical maniacs styled as the 3rd Reich, beside others styled as a "Roman Empire", a Mayincatec something-or-other, and more.

That difference is critical, and I hope GGG never forget it. Germany deserves better, as do all others who already have this subject drilled into their heads 24/7.



tl;dr

So nazis!
Meh.
It feels quite forced.
Fuck the world! :)
GGG - please do not goddamn overdo it, it's been incredibly awesome so far.
Dub me BOB, THE WIZARD OF BOB!

Roguelikes 4eva biatch. ;)
Last edited by 8TWO8 on Feb 15, 2017, 9:42:12 PM
Been critical in the past and over the Xbone announcement ... I let go of that crap. GGG has never let me down no sense in not trusting them now. I am super excited about the 3.0.0 expansion and cant wait for the 2.6.0 info drop.
Last edited by Colton_Pickens1989 on Feb 15, 2017, 9:22:34 PM
Fantastic news and we have a lot of new content to look forward to. However GGG, when you are hiring new people make sure they are able to invent new things instead of copying or referencing other games too blatantly.

First off:

Nazi-like symbols and monsters in nazi uniforms is just a big NO NO for a game like PoE. Please consider remodeling some of that before launch. It makes 0 sense.

Secondly skeletons in wheels and spinning caged skeletons with weapons are very well known entities from the Dark Soul games. Try to refrain from carboncopying like that. I am sure you have more than good enough designers to make up something new on your own as proven by lots of interesting artwork in the game already.

Other than that I just love this change to bits.

Thank you
I think it is time to return to POE.

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