Private Indexers and Bots who can whisper for items are Myths.

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Pathological wrote:

poe.trade allows you to be instantly notified when someone lists items matching specific criteria get listed, I don't think that is what is really being discussed here. Using only poe.trade and manual copy paste, you can send someone a whisper within 2 seconds of them listing their item manually, if the API is keeping up that day.

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Pathological wrote:

poe.trade allows you to be instantly notified when someone lists items matching specific criteria get listed, I don't think that is what is really being discussed here. Using only poe.trade and manual copy paste, you can send someone a whisper within 2 seconds of them listing their item manually, if the API is keeping up that day.

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Clownkrieger wrote:

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Pathological wrote:

poe.trade allows you to be instantly notified when someone lists items matching specific criteria get listed, I don't think that is what is really being discussed here. Using only poe.trade and manual copy paste, you can send someone a whisper within 2 seconds of them listing their item manually, if the API is keeping up that day.

i once put up a divinationcard without realizing its price has changed (rised) a few chaos in the last days. got instawhispers of some peoples, and since im not new to the tradinggame i knew: priced to cheap. so i raised the price for a chaos, and got instawhispered by THE SAME people again. not 1. 3-4. all sitting all day long in front of poe-trade and sending whispers like crazy when a new item pops up?

well, they are all on my ignore-list now. nice way to pricecheck items and get rid of the "botters" or scripkiddies or whatever at the same time :)

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Pathological wrote:

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Clownkrieger wrote:

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Pathological wrote:

poe.trade allows you to be instantly notified when someone lists items matching specific criteria get listed, I don't think that is what is really being discussed here. Using only poe.trade and manual copy paste, you can send someone a whisper within 2 seconds of them listing their item manually, if the API is keeping up that day.

i once put up a divinationcard without realizing its price has changed (rised) a few chaos in the last days. got instawhispers of some peoples, and since im not new to the tradinggame i knew: priced to cheap. so i raised the price for a chaos, and got instawhispered by THE SAME people again. not 1. 3-4. all sitting all day long in front of poe-trade and sending whispers like crazy when a new item pops up?

well, they are all on my ignore-list now. nice way to pricecheck items and get rid of the "botters" or scripkiddies or whatever at the same time :)

Have you used the feature on the website? You get a loud beep when a new listing pops, as well as a popup on top of your screen if you so choose.

I'm not saying that people don't bot them (infact, I'm specifically saying they do), but its certainly not hard to send a whisper to a player within 2 seconds manually when a new item pops up on the website (and if someone relisted for a new price, it pops again as a new item). If you're after a particular item at a particular price, getting there first is often the important thing. You don't read the sellar if a new one pops 30 seconds later.

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Krayken wrote:

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Pathological wrote:

Have you used the feature on the website? You get a loud beep when a new listing pops, as well as a popup on top of your screen if you so choose.

I'm not saying that people don't bot them (infact, I'm specifically saying they do), but its certainly not hard to send a whisper to a player within 2 seconds manually when a new item pops up on the website (and if someone relisted for a new price, it pops again as a new item). If you're after a particular item at a particular price, getting there first is often the important thing. You don't read the sellar if a new one pops 30 seconds later.

What you don't seem to get is that sending a whisper 2 seconds after you hear the boop sound will never get you the item when competing with peoples using private indexers. I've had occurences that i whispered the guy literally 1 second after i hear the boop and the seller told me it was already sold 10-15 secs ago, which means some peoples get the boop before poe.trade sends them, even if you use the fastest notification that poe.trade provides. Those peoples are using provate indexers. Thats why GGG has to make their own official indexer and stop disclosing the trade tabs data publicly. It's just far too unfair for the legit players. Whats the purpose of having a non-pay to win game when theres private indexers provides such an unfair advantage?

Now for the botting part, peoples have to be ignorant if they think theres no bots using indexers. If there are sophisticated bots that actually plays the game efficiently, does the chaos recipes and all that shit then you can be damn sure theres a bot to send a whisper, join a party and click accept on a damn trade screen.

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Shagsbeard wrote:

Private indexers are a fact.

"Bots" are a pretty loose term, you'll need to describe what you mean by that. Certainly there are macros that will whisper for you. There are bots that play the game. I don't know if there are bots that will go through the entire process of a trade.