Molten Shell - The build

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Márkusz wrote:
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1Tokimeki2003 wrote:

Approved.


A well geared version of what I mentioned as the optimal non-anti-crit setup.

Aside from tooltip warrioring, this setup has some flaws. It sacrifices a big amount of survivability for maximum damage, but it's not optimal for anything.

It lacks any BCR, which spoils the purpose of the setup, the high burst damage.

CI Aegis full tanks are easier dealt with removing CWDTs and some BCR than adding more damage, otherwise it takes long time and prones to make mistakes.

Against other zerphi builds like mine, your molten damage is enough to oneshot, but your lower cast speed can cause you to die, if the opponent can score 2 hits between your 2 hits, you are getting 2-shot, so it's not a reliable setup. From our last night matches you killed me more often, because the block miss happens more often than my faster cast speed syncing up with yours, causing 2-shots, and without molten, your CWDTs are also rarely enough to burst me down on their own. If you were to get higher cast speed than me, I could almost never kill you while you keep casting.

Conc effect is only good vs slow opponents, who can't or won't run out of the aoe between your flicker-molten or dash-molten combo.

Empower is part of the absolute highest damage version, but it drastically increases the break threshold, and to keep the full trigger speed, it requires a very high mana cost, like you have, causing you to take high damage from scolds. Since your only phys mit is the basalt flask and some armour, assuming around 50% reduction, from the 1200 * 4 = 4800 original scold damage, you still take 2400, reducing your effective max life by that amount + the original cost.

My suggestions would be to swap Empower to BCR, so you get tankier and a more reliable fast burst damage. Get a cast speed swap against other molten zerphi to avoid 2-shots, or high burst damage in general. Try to squeeze in an AA, because it's not only easy phys reduction allowing for even lower mana cost, but fire reduction is also good, worth investing into that more mana.


On mobile, yeah this is with conc, it's alot less effective, I prefer faster casting by far, just wanted to post this to backup the evidence of 270k molten pre 3v3's last night,

I don't think BCR actually helps me all that much tbh, unless it's an enemy type like fox, however from memory, I've killed him a few times when the stars aligned, or most of the time I was 5-10% short.

I think I can take him, if I take out my CWDTs, however gem swapping is very difficult with rf and video capture thingy on my puny pc dishing out zero frames.


I've done a few more min maxing, I'll update it when I get home.

The engine ignition is the most tricky part of the build, otherwise it's a case of studying the flame dash behaviours and sniping the right moment. (As Every gem swap requires a different ignition patern)

I've honestly had alot of fun with this build, and that's something when I've only played ea for 2 years straight, every temp leagues etc.

I really wana fight my main with my setup... I'll see if I can scavenge a kaoms heart from a friend.

If you're willing to oblige.

My estimation, is that, if "clone" can get in range, it'll olbitarate my ea, however due to circumstances, it can't fight my ea's off hand weapon, as I can dot + out range "clone" as it's rather clunky.
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Last edited by 1Tokimeki2003 on Jan 7, 2017, 4:28:53 PM
Thank you so much for this build guide!

I've always been curious as to the recipe for hemorrhagic fever - might you have any other skill-tree pathogens?


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ahahah, really funny staff name

and markusz come for 3v3
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Last edited by 1Tokimeki2003 on Jan 8, 2017, 11:40:19 PM
How can you stay up so late, don't you go to work? I'm already staying up late but still missing most of those matches.
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Márkusz wrote:
How can you stay up so late, don't you go to work? I'm already staying up late but still missing most of those matches.


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[Hideout] New Oriath /2505008
[Pvp Trophy] PVP #1 EU & US EA /1591888 | | BM EA /1431163
[Dead] PSC La /1682118, Build BM PA /1296491, BM IG LL ST /1121092, Shop /874905
"God's in his Heaven, All's right with the world!" IGN: Libritannia
Update:
Respecced into Staff+Kaom for better survivability.
Sum: dropped armoured nodes for more life, relying on Basalt flask for most of the phys mit. BCR gem is now in the main setup.

The full setup

Skill tree

Main setup:



Anti-crit swaps:

Summoner swaps (75% (86%) chaos res):

The rest:




Stats

level 92
7.9k - 8.4k life with reg kaoms
6.2 - 6.4k life with brass
1681 mana
600 mana cost with Faster casting and 2 jewels, 800 with 3 jewels (702, 936 with Conc)
16k Armour (23k with brass)
48% Fire pen (10% on other ele)
3.55 casts per second (full heal each time) (2.54 with Conc)
0.28 cast time (you have to deal 9.5k-ish damage in this time to kill me) (0.39 with Conc)
34% Movement speed unbuffed, 142% with QS


Damage per hit only on Motlen Shell (pvp: after reduction):
33594 tooltip damage with Faster Casting unbuffed (pvp: 4073)
40106 tooltip damage with Faster Casting, and flasks (pvp: 4514)
56148 tooltip damage with Faster Casting, flasks, and Ele Overload (pvp: 5486)
92134 tooltip damage with Faster Casting, flasks, Ele Overload, and RF (pvp: 7312)

54676 tooltip damage with Conc effect unbuffed (pvp: 5403)
65077 tooltip damage with Conc effect, and flasks (pvp: 5977)
91108 tooltip damage with Conc effect, flasks, and Ele Overload (pvp: 7265)
149524 tooltip damage with Conc effect, flasks, Ele Overload, and RF (pvp: 9683)

Thanks go to Libri for some tips
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Last edited by Márkusz on Jan 14, 2017, 7:15:12 PM
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Márkusz wrote:
Update:
Respecced into Staff+Kaom for better survivability.
Sum: dropped armoured nodes for more life, relying on Basalt flask for most of the phys mit. BCR gem is now in the main setup.

The full setup

Skill tree

Main setup:



Anti-crit swaps:

Summoner swaps (75% (86%) chaos res):

The rest:




Stats

level 92
7.9k - 8.4k life with reg kaoms
6.2 - 6.4k life with brass
1681 mana
600 mana cost with Faster casting and 2 jewels, 800 with 3 jewels (702, 936 with Conc)
16k Armour (23k with brass)
48% Fire pen (10% on other ele)
3.55 casts per second (full heal each time) (2.54 with Conc)
0.28 cast time (you have to deal 9.5k-ish damage in this time to kill me) (0.39 with Conc)
34% Movement speed unbuffed, 142% with QS



Damage per hit only on Motlen Shell (pvp: after reduction):
33594 tooltip damage with Faster Casting unbuffed (pvp: 4073)
40106 tooltip damage with Faster Casting, and flasks (pvp: 4514)
56148 tooltip damage with Faster Casting, flasks, and Ele Overload (pvp: 5486)
92134 tooltip damage with Faster Casting, flasks, Ele Overload, and RF (pvp: 7312)

54676 tooltip damage with Conc effect unbuffed (pvp: 5403)
65077 tooltip damage with Conc effect, and flasks (pvp: 5977)
91108 tooltip damage with Conc effect, flasks, and Ele Overload (pvp: 7265)
149524 tooltip damage with Conc effect, flasks, Ele Overload, and RF (pvp: 9683)

Thanks go to Libri for some tips


Hmm....all looks good here
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Last edited by MullaXul on Jan 14, 2017, 8:02:34 PM
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needless to say, mindspiral is OP. im expecting a strong nerf. its killing pvp.




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