[2.5] Tulfall Frenzy CI Discharger Chayula defeated.

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Myhanus wrote:

Like i said i'm really not that great a theory crafting, I can see your point but isn't pyre a must have since frenzy charges give you a cold damage discharge? Woudln't all the increase fire damage be a waste? How about the elemental damage given from the golem, wouldn't that be half as useful ?

Can someone shed some light into this matter, how does the increase element damage affect my discharge ?

Looking at the original post, your already running a cold to fire and only want to be doing fire damage. If you can get to avatar of fire (your already in the area) youll be able to drop the pyre for valyrium and get the endurance charge discharges going at no loss to the current discharge.

Quick look at the tree, best way to do it is probably drop 2 of the 6% ES nodes. You already run a ton of ES, can manage without for a few levels.

This build is fun. Not the best out there but it is some thing unique.
I'm following it, currently lv 88. I have some changes in gearing and passive for balance between damage and defense.

My current gear



I use Valyrium, pick AoF, equiped Voll's for endurance charge. Now I run at 7 frenzy 6 endur. Got 5s immortal call almost every time I take hit. Using Vertex because I dont have any es helmet atm. Try farming for one.

I will archive 12k es at lv 90.

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Byrr wrote:

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Myhanus wrote:

Like i said i'm really not that great a theory crafting, I can see your point but isn't pyre a must have since frenzy charges give you a cold damage discharge? Woudln't all the increase fire damage be a waste? How about the elemental damage given from the golem, wouldn't that be half as useful ?

Can someone shed some light into this matter, how does the increase element damage affect my discharge ?

Looking at the original post, your already running a cold to fire and only want to be doing fire damage. If you can get to avatar of fire (your already in the area) youll be able to drop the pyre for valyrium and get the endurance charge discharges going at no loss to the current discharge.

Quick look at the tree, best way to do it is probably drop 2 of the 6% ES nodes. You already run a ton of ES, can manage without for a few levels.

The problem with avatar of fire is that you cannot proc Element Equilibrium. EE is an enormous damage boost for burn based builds.

If you have to choose between these two setups:

cold to fire + EE
cold to fire + avatar of fire

The first setup will give you way more damage. On a fire resistant Mob (75% fire res), EE will act as a 500% burn multiplier if you proc it twice. While avatar of fire will only result in a 30% damage multiplier on the burn.

Hey, great build - fun to play - i'm playing it since lvl 65 and i am lvling with it now, a lot of fun :)

My question is for the maximum charges, im running with 5 frenzy right now - since some skillpoints are missing - but you are writing in the build

7frenzy charges (3 baseline, 3 tree, 1 bandit)

I'm struggling to find the third frenzy charge out of the skilltree - where is it?

i'm finding 2 out of the skilltree - am I missing something?

And my other question is, does scorching ray totem work fine with bosses? havent tried it out yet :)

Greetings

The problem with avatar of fire is that you cannot proc Element Equilibrium. EE is an enormous damage boost for burn based builds.

If you have to choose between these two setups:

cold to fire + EE
cold to fire + avatar of fire

The first setup will give you way more damage. On a fire resistant Mob (75% fire res), EE will act as a 500% burn multiplier if you proc it twice. While avatar of fire will only result in a 30% damage multiplier on the burn.

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I dont need EE because I got 6 endurance charge replace. Compare to the damage 6 endurance charge brings to you, EE can be ignore. With normal setup you get damage from 6 frenzy, using my u get damage from 13 charges total. With those multiple damage from gem + trees, it reasult in huge damage bonus, which I can clear almost every thing.

Another option to keep in mind is Hrimburn. It'll let your cold damage ignite/prolif if you take beacon of corruption. The downside to this is that fire damage will no longer scale both the discharge/ignite.

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using my u get damage from 13 charges total

Yes, yours is better but very expensive compared to the original setup. And yes, throw in a low life version. But hey, every thing works with best gear. A good build should work with medium or low end gear. And the required uniques are low end.

Another thing bugs me: Why is beacon of corruption used when ignited enemies are destroyed on kill?

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knivil wrote:

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using my u get damage from 13 charges total

Yes, yours is better but very expensive compared to the original setup. And yes, throw in a low life version. But hey, every thing works with best gear. A good build should work with medium or low end gear. And the required uniques are low end.

Another thing bugs me: Why is beacon of corruption used when ignited enemies are destroyed on kill?

OH men, the amulet only 4 ex, death's door 1 ex now. The league started for nearly 1 month, dont tell me you cant earn 10+ ex from the beginning to now. What is the reason people store ex for ? It just a game, spend your ex as it make fun. They all trash at league end..

And pls, dont tell me that some one too poor to afford few ex gears. I my self play 5-6 h / day, 5 day a week. An I make my self near 20 ex, just from drop and sell items, no black orbs market.

Come on friends, it 2017 already, earning ex in this game is very easy now.

A build cost about 8- 10 ex is not consider expensive anymore, dont be backward thinking.

Sorry guys for not updating the build at the moment, i'm on holidays.

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Lyxara wrote:

Hey, great build - fun to play - i'm playing it since lvl 65 and i am lvling with it now, a lot of fun :)

My question is for the maximum charges, im running with 5 frenzy right now - since some skillpoints are missing - but you are writing in the build

7frenzy charges (3 baseline, 3 tree, 1 bandit)

I'm struggling to find the third frenzy charge out of the skilltree - where is it?

i'm finding 2 out of the skilltree - am I missing something?

And my other question is, does scorching ray totem work fine with bosses? havent tried it out yet :)

Greetings

Yeah sorry for that, someone suggested to drop my last frenzy near duelist and get more ele damage/es/jewel sockets

I think it was worth it. So I only have 6 frenzy total. 2 from tree and 1 from bandit.

I changed my ascendancy, got rid of prolif since pyre destroys corpses. And picked up thé ele pen one.