Why I'm no longer buying supporter packs
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New supporter packs out, usually by now the sweats got too much & I spent $...
I only bought the cheaper pack last time. Because I felt some good, but mostly 'meh'. So what's changed, why don't I feel they GGGodly, GGGood, and deserve my money? There's a few things. Trade - It's a HUGE thing in every game for me. Cept here! On my Phone. Is a crafting game, with a big online trade system. Couple of MMO's I've 'gold capped' multi-toons. Shit I've even had staff call my contact number when I went away on holiday because it was stuffing the server economy. Last league here, I had 12 afk, and 1 person just abuse me for over 15mins with random insults. I put a screen shot on forums, got the post removed and warned I'd get banned. (I get 'name and shame rules, but I didn't say anything about what a prophetic asshole I thought they were didn't say anything, still feels a bit dirty/nazi forums) I had people make me swap leagues for 1 alc, then not want it by the time I logged over. (What happened to X-Server trade they talked about) I've had people 'can't I'm in lab'. Premium Tabs. Sure, ya 'can' use trade chat/build ya own website on forums for shop. They are cheap. But, it still feels dirty as fuck, and seriously changed my mind about GGG. I soooo hate it I can't say 'Well GGG's cash shop is 100% non-pay to win, they rock. Cash Shop RNG Box's - Again, not worst I ever seen. But still feels dirty/frustrating. Even with Steams tie-in promo, at least ya could trade unwanted items. Gifts system - I tried to buy a girl I like, a mini-pet, and my best friend spider sparks to get them all inspired in PoE more... Sure the staff were nice to do it, but it felt like a total pain in the ass & a bit like I wasn't trusted not to be trading real $ in game stuff or something dirty. The MTX window in game, is messy & soo hard to put things in order/arrange. (Ok, so it's only the OCD of us that can't stand it, but it's not just me I noticed bitching!) The forums Feels much less impactful since the company got 'big'. Feels like it's just asshole trolls that read/reply. WTF is with GGG replying thru Reddit and not putting ANY info on there own website?!! Loot Worst loot in ANY ARPG! Find a upgrade while leveling, not worth the cost to socket/colour it, better to just buy a done one from someone else. Get to maps and get sexy chest/weap... Again, can be weeks of farming starter maps to get sockets/colours. Loots not worth picking up. Ok there's the 'odd' card or unique. But it's soo rare, and it's not something you want or care about yaself. Ya just going to sell it to someone else 99% of the time. Cards - Not worth farming for items yaself, just more time spent fucking around the website 'fake' AH/dealing with manual trade. You try explaining yellows to a 'new player'... Well, you see, ya'll need a website to look up the mods/roll ranges. Yeah, there's hidden tiers, then 'sets' of mods ya'll want together. Then you need to know the 'meta' builds, sure you could get that 1 in 1.3mil odd T1 rolls item drop, but if it's not meta, people will offer you a chaos or less in a few months time... - Why not make a GGGenius gear system. Only thing we don't grind is gear! It's own talent tree, leveling, customizations. Other games have started to do these sorts of things. Be it talent tree, or 'crafting/upgrades' with farmable items from harder content etc. It'd give ya something to do after first 'race rush' at start of league. Where did all the fun go? Why is it all just trivial or frustrating now? The 'slower/longer grind' to 100. Tho may be good for races, is soo much a 'can I be bothered' not 'this is challenging content'. Atlas didn't actually do anything to stop the tedium of not being able to support your map pool at content you want to play! It's still much safer/cheaper/efficient to just farm yellow maps than red for going for 100. "Watch T.V. for most the game play, then the odd escalating hard fight" I get where ya's coming from... but trivial 1shot more than the screen, mind numbing. Then the 1 crazy encounter feels cheap/bullshit as it's balanced around Alt+F4 to avoid danger. Required Builds: Sure V2 added heaps more diversity & things were going better than ever. BUT, lab proof builds, and 'endgame boss' proof builds, sort of throw that out the window. 98% of deaths are bullshit! Lag/Client problems, then random exploding dead things. Then the 'odd' mass high dps projectiles CC Stun Locking/Freeze locking when pot low/the random stupidly huge crit. - Again I think a huge thing is, it's Alt+F4 balanced. There's sooo little 'skill challenge' where, oh if I only zigged left, I coulda just scrapped that in. I'll get better next time... It's oh crap, that tiny boss room was full of things that exploded on death. - Perfect RNG storms is about as good feeling as it get's these days! It's always F-RNG, or R-Lag bad feels bro! - The new boss/maps. First off, YAY! SOO love the mechanic drive new boss fights! But, why did you just 'move' the frustrating crap boss's and add more? Yay, Crem's now fun! Oh Cells has that crappy randomly rippy with no warning boss... Canyon is just 100% troll now. Too short to give any exp/loot and just stunlock/charge edge of screen 1shot BS boss's not even in there own room. WTF is with some of the boss's? Reflect/Thorns to stop phys/ele players/fast attacks/casts?!! Immune to X boss's? - it's un-noticeable-trivial with some builds, totally frustrating for others. WTF is actually going on/How do I learn to be better This one is still driving me NUTS. Worse is trying to get other friends to play. How do you tell what killed you? Well, you record a vid of you playing, and if you can't guess yourself, you need a group of PoE players to give there opinions of what happened. Oh I got hit by 'green stuff'. Was that fire? Ghostly dead cold something? Poison? It's even worse with 'league' monsters/spells being a pretty colour, or new boss's being very cool looking space effects. I mean, it looks cool, but no idea what it 'dose'. I know a full combat log, would let people see how unbalanced the game is and build the powerful builds with lots less effort. But, even a what killed you msg. You were killed by [Monster name][Damage type] It's WORSE in groups with everyones spells covering the screen! Where'd all the innovation go? So, class asention and lab I found kinda cool. Lab was a bit less 'omfg gauntlet fun times' than hoped, but still. GGGenius. I used to be regularly blown away with GGG's touch. Even with 'copied concepts' like goblins that were ghosts that buffed things. Soo much more enjoyable! But it's all been feeling a bit 'stale'. I've been playing another ARPG, by a small indi dev. Anyway, around it's heath bar, there's a golden bar. When you get out of combat for a few seconds, your life starts healing, and the gold bar go's down. There's 'ess' the monsters drop, or 'food' that refill it. This simple feature, allows for 'intense fast combat' but still allows you to have MANY oh poop, situations & feels more skilled combat. Makes a 'zip in, go blat blat get out' type feel to the combat/adds some depth. The other thing, if you get 'rep' from different people, the food gives you a buff for a few mins. Adding another layer of 'cool' (When your in area's of the game without much food, ya feel hungry, but the base system still is in play adding depth to the combat) I'm used to it being GGG that adds the simple/easy/elegant concept with soo much depth behind it. Quality of Life Aura's/Minions... It's lovely you put a better UI on Aura buttons... but... What happened to that 2nd action bar? Aura's/minions just staying 'on' after DC's/death? AutoLoot currency? (Not game braking, but WHY not, how many hours have I wasted clicking on things I'm always going to click on? Having to 'race' into danger to get it if non-perm loot on a party?) Tool Tips - Could say lots more with Shift Key or something, ya know. Tier/roll ranges. Basically just the 'little' things that make a HUGE diff, and let you keep playing, and not spending lots of time clicking/looking up websites. - The currency tab, I didn't know I wanted/needed this, but it's made my life soo much better! :-) T-Shirts The first T-Shirt with the 6L, SOO cool! I ware it out to raves/festivals/doofs... The T-Shirts since, with the PoE logo... they too odvious & geeky. I've had BIG scary hairy guys follow me around. People in bottle shops tell me how D3 isn't a bad game either... All the cool art ya's do, give us something better than the logo, again. Last edited by Bweaty#3603 on Nov 22, 2016, 6:24:45 AM Last bumped on Nov 24, 2016, 5:14:56 PM
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very interesting post, I enjoyed the read.
I agree with many points you put put here, and these are the same reason why I stopped buying supporter packs (btw I got mine hidden, before anyone would say I got non) YES I support the game, NO I don't agree with many GGG decisions
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" I have said why auto looting currency would break the economy a couple of times. I stopped posting it because it seems like nobody gave it any ounce of thought and just said "nuh-uh" and ignored me. I agree with you on a number of things here, but this one got me laughing. "It's all clearer now
And I hear her now And I'm nearer to The Salvation Code" |
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"Auto" + anything always makes me roll my eyes.
I get being lazy. I don't get "automate the game for me". Go play one of those screensaver automation 'games' or something. My Keystone Ideas: http://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/744282
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Looking at your title list, you've given more than your share already. Let the new target audience take over with the donations.
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" Can I sign so. |
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What a wall of text, except it's a wall that touches on a lot of the frustrations I have with the game as well!
" MTX is one of my least concerns, but it really should be one of GGG's biggest because it's how they get their money! MTX should be easy to buy, search, organize, and there should be a lot more options than what we have now. For example, there should be a way to adjust the shades of color on basic "auras" (with a slider or something to that effect). Players love this type of customization, and more flexibility = more money. I find myself not using or wanting to buy most MTX because outfit color clashes terribly with the "auras" I'll be running or my cool look simply gets hidden behind flashy herald effects so I never get to see it anyway. Loot. So true. We don't grind hoping for great gear drops; we grind for currency to trade for gear. As someone who would prefer to play solo without engaging in the player economy (yuck), this stinks. Of course people like to say, "Well go play Grim Dawn if you want to go solo and don't like to trade", but PoE is, even without trade, the vastly superior game (imho) for the variety it offers and its frequent updates. Anyway, it would be nice if there was a way to play solo more efficiently and farm specific gear for your build without having to trade. And don't even get me started on the state of most div cards... Leveling. This is my biggest "WTF, GGG?" They increase boss life (clear speeds go down unless you're a top tier build), reduce xp gains at high levels, and release the Atlas, which has an arguably slower "natural" growth curve than the previous system. Prior to these changes, I felt like I could maybe hit 100 one day. Now I have a level 97 character sitting in Standard, and it's hard to bring myself to play it because the xp bar doesn't move when I map, and a single death would set me back a ridiculous amount of hours. I wish GGG would remove the softcore death penalty and reward players for living instead of punishing them for dying. Instead of the death penalty, there could be an xp bonus that grows as you rack up more xp, and it could get reset if you die. In this way, people constantly progress toward 100 and don't rage quit after one of those awful deaths that they couldn't possibly have prevented (gotta love spike damage and the unreliable connections of online-only games). Innovation has been going out the window in favor of subtle balance changes, which isn't necessarily the worst thing in a constantly growing game like this, but I sure do miss old EB and Arctic Armour and aura buffing... Dreamfeather Elemental Cleave Ranger: http://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1087616 Last edited by Tempada#2630 on Nov 22, 2016, 9:33:16 AM
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Wow people still complaining about Premium Stash tabs? Even complaining about it when you have thousands of points? So tired of people complainign about minor things as if it's something world changing while a fascist became one of our world leaders. PoE is a game, GGG is a company, who gives a damn if in your world buying a stash tab is pay to win. You should seriously learn to be happy and enjoy a game.
Last edited by leto2626#2588 on Nov 22, 2016, 10:09:49 AM
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" I love it when people complain about other people complaining, when they should be out there fighting fascist dictators. Or maybe don't use real world political problems in a game forum to dismiss someone's arguments, because you look like an idiot considering YOU are also in this forum posting about games instead of "fighting the powah." Maybe go spend some of that supporter pack money on real problems in the real world? Or maybe just be quiet and let the man say his piece. "We're pilgrims in an unholy land." Last edited by Nenjin#4415 on Nov 22, 2016, 10:55:38 AM
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Well, for some of us enough is just enough. I've supported path rigorously, buying packs with new expansions etc cause I felt that GGG deserved it. I don't regret it but time has come when I realized I disagree with the direction this game is taking more and more so Prophecy was the first pack I didn't buy. As much as I wanted I just couldn't justify it anymore. Many point you raise I share, I have few more on my own too.
Thanks for your support mate! I AM MAD
ZAP!ZAP!ZAP! ME SOOO WIZZARD! |
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