To Whoever Edits The Wiki.

Okay, but wasn't the original owner just doing the same thing? Maybe on a smaller scale but someone had to start it and sell it over to Curse.

Curse is just a more recognizable brand, which has its paws on a number of gamepedias. Even if the original owner still had it, what's to say they would have still contributed to it or even put more resources into it once it was set up.

They would still profit from other peoples work? Since they are the host. Correct me if I'm wrong here.

If this is correct, then it seems like the average player looses out on current information just because we can recognize a corporate entity.
Last edited by TwistedTrip#5344 on Nov 11, 2016, 5:56:17 AM
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TwistedTrip wrote:
Okay, but wasn't the original owner just doing the same thing? Maybe on a smaller scale but someone had to start it and sell it over to Curse.

Curse is just a more recognizable brand, which has it's paws on a number of gamepedias. Even if the original owner still had it, what's to say they would have still contributed to it or even put more resources into it once it was set up.

They would still profit from other peoples work? Since they are the host. Correct me if I'm wrong here.

If this is correct, then it seems like the average player looses out on current information just because we can recognize a cooperate entity.


That is absolutely true.

Thing is, most people are disappointed that GGG itself doesn't do anything about it. Even more, most of the things outside of game itself are community efforts.

GGG could make its own wiki and profit off it, but due to unkown reasons they don't do that.

Also there was a time that curse added lots of info by itself, now they stopped doing it, and players don't like that, I think it started around ascendancy release, many things are outdated there now.

The question is, will community again do something or GGG? Cause Curse stopped contributing.
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Ahhhh I see.

Yeah I would love to see the wiki owned by GGG, I doubt they could support their own and keep it as up to date as an unofficial one. If they had their own, I would imagine a timed release on information regarding newly implemented content.

But you're certainly right, the lack of GGG's input when it comes to game information has always been annoying. I think it comes down to what they can cover, and it's just lower on the totem pole. Maybe in the future they will add something to manage in game information better.. *shrugs*

But the dream would be a GGG owned wiki, where they and the player can add information together.
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Necromael wrote:
GGG could make its own wiki and profit off it, but due to unkown reasons they don't do that.

How exactly is GGG going to make profit on extra server space and bandwidth usage?
It's most likely going to be a net-zero affair monetarily, but... More on this after the break.

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Necromael wrote:
If you want to read more and it explains why :
https://www.reddit.com/r/pathofexile/comments/5axzne/psa_poe_wiki_is_a_wiki_if_you_are_frustrated_with/
I will quote some of the comments :
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"While curse can take all the money it makes on the poe wiki and other game wikis and put 0% of that money back into the wikis. They can use all that money on anything they want. This means all our hardwork doesnt help keep the wiki open, it doesnt help it get better, it doesnt help it get more servers or redundancy. It could be off pay for curse to buy out other game wikis or make stupid apps."
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In one hand I'm upset they, curse, profit off keeping the wiki up to date while perhaps entering very little information themselves. In the other I use adblock anyway.
I had added a few things before the full curse takeover.
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Why should we go out of our way to fix the information on a resource like the Wiki, which is an add-ridden, poorly scripted mess bought out by people who give zero fucks about the community?

I love these comments btw. Oh, the server host doesn't have to do anything but, you know, host the server? Well I never.

If the wiki was experiencing constant downtime and bad loading times, that's when you complain to the server host. If there's nobody from the community taking the time to write stuff on a community-driven project, that's on you. I've been a part of the old Guild Wars wiki for years upon years (me)- everything there was written by one of us, or a direct quote from the game, hand-copied by a community member. ANet themselves opened up a second wiki down the line, and do you know how much information they put out there? A select few members answered questions on their talk pages, fact-checking references or discussing balance changes. That's... it.

A wiki is written by the community, not the server host. There can be overlap, Curse employees play games too, but there is no obligation.

So back to that 'but...': Can you really blame GGG for not wanting to host the wiki, when there's so many butthurt idiots that don't understand the basic fundamentals of a wiki?
Last edited by Vipermagi#0984 on Nov 11, 2016, 6:40:34 AM
I would have nothing against community backed wiki, except Curse is not a community, but a private company which reaps profits off community interests and effort.

Would it be against something if GGG made their own wiki, copied curse wiki content and allowed users to edit it, meanwhile, using nonintrusive ads to support it and helping with mechanical questions, just like that thread in gameplay help?

I don't take any sides, I just plainly dislike Curse, and that is from my WoW days back in 2008.

And to add up, as 1 member of community my sole opinion about that matter is entirely insignificant and can't change anything how things are.

This is all my subjective opinion.
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Last edited by Necromael#6926 on Nov 11, 2016, 7:06:34 AM
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Necromael wrote:
Would it be against something if GGG made their own wiki, copied curse wiki content and allowed users to edit it, meanwhile, using nonintrusive ads to support it and helping with mechanical questions, just like that thread in gameplay help?

That would certainly be better. The mechanics thread is good and all, but fairly cumbersome to use because you can only do so much with a forum post, it's a bother to crosslink stuff and search.
It's understandable that devs don't want to directly contribute to a resource hosted by another company but it would be a different story if it was owned by them. Maybe they could even spare one of those 90 employees then to quality check it and provide info we have a hard time getting without taking up Mark's time.
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Necromael wrote:
I've found around 10 places that drop cards and are unlisted. (this league only)



I would be more than happy to enter those drop locations into wiki on your behalf, as I am especially invested in the divcard section:) PM me with the details, please.

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Won't edit that wiki ever, simply because it is owned by curse.


Though I undrestand your concerns, I still believe that in the meantime all effort should be made to have as much information as possible comfortably available to all players.

gg and gl,
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I would pm you with the info, but upon checking the wiki and seeing that it isn't listed there, I didn't write it down anywhere, and I didn't remember it, sorry.

I can keep you listed, whenever again I drop an unlisted card, as I do lot of different maps all the time. While playing, I have always open wiki on div card page, and whenever I drop an uncommon card I check if it is listed.
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Last edited by Necromael#6926 on Nov 11, 2016, 9:03:16 AM
I went ahead and edited wiki when my card The Stormcaller got added in and still saying I need citation needed for me being the creator ;-;

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