[2.6/3.1] Shaper down on budget 5-link - The Debuffing Pizza (Tri-Curse CI Elementalist Flameblast)

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xiani wrote:

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Kostyan1996 wrote:

ES recharge delay feels to long: I starting to cast FB on pack and on explosion moment I usually loose around 40-70% of my ES and than I should go back and regen ES. Is it normal for CI builds (it's my first CI build)?

Also, why The Sorrow of the Divine over some other useful flask?

Essence surge in tree gives 15% faster start to shield recharge. Also, lvl3 PvP master Leo lets you craft that, if you can can be bothered with his missions.

Sorrow flask makes life regen into ES recharge with Zealot's Oath:

http://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/Zealot%27s_Oath

It's nowhere near Vaal discipline (your 'heal' potion basically), but you don't always have that available.

Thanks for the answer, I decided to go for "Dark" version of this build with GR+VP. It should be around lvl81 for me, I will write thoughts on overall feel of mapping and bosskilling before and after I pick these two.

Oh, and forgot to mention - yes, 0.2% leech is not that high on bosses, so I bought Eye of Chayula with "0.2% fire damage leeched as life", that should be twice as much leech.

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Kostyan1996 wrote:

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xiani wrote:

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Kostyan1996 wrote:

ES recharge delay feels to long: I starting to cast FB on pack and on explosion moment I usually loose around 40-70% of my ES and than I should go back and regen ES. Is it normal for CI builds (it's my first CI build)?

Also, why The Sorrow of the Divine over some other useful flask?

Essence surge in tree gives 15% faster start to shield recharge. Also, lvl3 PvP master Leo lets you craft that, if you can can be bothered with his missions.

Sorrow flask makes life regen into ES recharge with Zealot's Oath:

http://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/Zealot%27s_Oath

It's nowhere near Vaal discipline (your 'heal' potion basically), but you don't always have that available.

Thanks for the answer, I decided to go for "Dark" version of this build with GR+VP. It should be around lvl81 for me, I will write thoughts on overall feel of mapping and bosskilling before and after I pick these two.

Oh, and forgot to mention - yes, 0.2% leech is not that high on bosses, so I bought Eye of Chayula with "0.2% fire damage leeched as life", that should be twice as much leech.

Look forward to your feedback. :D

BTW, when mapping you don't use 10-stack FB. You just click the mouse very shortly (like 0.3 second) to cast a 2-3 stack FB and you still oneshot most mobs. With the help of TC most mobs can't even touch you in that short amount of time.

Doryanis is great end-game, but you should really mention in the main post that Beyond scepter with the eye in it is AMAZING to level with until 75. You will never run out of mana and you will basically gain all of your ES back every time a pack dies.

I kind of miss it, but Doryanis added a lot of damage.

I'm running Empower in a skin of the loyal (4B 2R). Should be able to get a level 24/25 flameblast out of it. I put on an 800es regalia and gained about 1500 ES... but Skin is too good to pass up, and as my gear gets more and more ES it will level out a bit more.

Res is capped from a crappy belt that I might never replace (need the strength on it).

Great build, looking forward to leveling into the end game with it! The prolif should make breachstones very easy.

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kharper6 wrote:

Doryanis is great end-game, but you should really mention in the main post that Beyond scepter with the eye in it is AMAZING to level with until 75. You will never run out of mana and you will basically gain all of your ES back every time a pack dies.

I kind of miss it, but Doryanis added a lot of damage.

It actually is mentioned in BiS leveling items.

Hi it's me again :o

i'v managed to kill some t15bosses yey!

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loonger wrote:

Please kindly check the Achievement/Feedback sessions in the guide. T15s are a piece of cake really. In fact it feels the same mapping in T16+ (except for boss fights) and mapping in T15- because you oneshot everything (including T15 bosses that don't have phases). Some members use this build to kill Shaper in HC or achieve 40/40 challenge, so it's quite HC viable.

Do you setup the Temporal Chain and Decoy Totem properly?

However i'm faaaaar from oneshoting them,it is always a 5min fight, tried pit of the chimera an phoenix, wasted all my portals from lack of mobility/dps after 10min ( and dozzilions of pizzas) but it was fun :) I finally will take the fangs of the viper node I guess

I'm working on gems actually to get q20 and lower the required str (TC/decoy)


Need to do the uberlab for pendulum, i'm pretty sure that's what i'm missing, I'v put labs run off until tomorrow , but its time now :(

Hey, is it worth getting +1 curse chayula?
What ring should i use then, another elreon's?

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BlindSythe wrote:

Hey, is it worth getting +1 curse chayula?
What ring should i use then, another elreon's?

Totally worth it, but only if you can afford it. Yes, you spend huge amount of currency, but you will get free ring slot (it should be Elreon's 100%), which is -mana cost = HUGE quality of life. You should probably also get faster ES recharge start (huge survivabilty boost, only if not GR+VP version) + as much res as you can. Then you can afford better ES gear without res, so you will have more eHP.

Hello,
Thanks for your build, i use it in SC legacy... with pleasure.
For my last ascendancy point I hesitate between pendulum or parangon
Do you know if parangon make a real difference for survivability in last maps (T13-15 - guardians - shaper)

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christpoe wrote:

Hello,
Thanks for your build, i use it in SC legacy... with pleasure.
For my last ascendancy point I hesitate between pendulum or parangon
Do you know if parangon make a real difference for survivability in last maps (T13-15 - guardians - shaper)

After you successfully transit to CI, single mob reflection is no longer a problem. So Pendulum is much better in terms of DPS and QoL.

Heck, if you master the Detonate Dead setup you can even run Elemental Reflection map with ease. Please kindly check the question regarding reflection in the Q&A session for more details.

Could anyone take a look at my pizza witch, it feels like i'm doing something wrong since i'm doing very little damage especially when i switch to the CE single target gem, mabye i'm just retarded but i'm supposed to use FB/Controlled desdtruction/chance to ignite/CE(IAoE), fire pen?
I've probably read the guide 10 times and now i just got frustrated enough to ask for help since i couldnt even kill t9 boss (Without retard mods). I appreciate all help! And a point towards next upgrade would be cool aswell! Otherwise i think its a blast playing the pizza build!