I really, really, hate what Atlas did to unique maps.

At least they're worth something now

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StDrakeX wrote:

At least they're worth something now

While true it also basically pigeon holes you into getting unique maps via trade or divination cards.


I was going to make a post about this as well and its really my biggest gripe they haven't addressed yet. Whats the point of all these unique maps, most of which are lower level only being done after you've leveled past the content's challenge? Part of the fun of mapping IMO was having unique maps drop occasionally and even if it wasn't efficient to run it, I'd still do it to listen to the music track or see if I can get a lucky unique item drop, but when I'm essentially forced to buy all the unique maps at the start of the league so I can unlock them to drop, then it removes the fun from it IMO.

Unique maps shouldn't be as restricted as they are now.

yeah i dont understand why it is there either .. the only way to get it is to get lucky while running constant perandus mods on zana.


could be worse .. could be a piece of shit map in addition to be being just a pain in the ass to find

*cough grandmasters*

i have 4 or 5 of those maps .. dont wana run any of them.. if i do i might get aids and cancer ...

For what it's worth, I have gotten MOST of the unique maps I have unlocked from Cadiro. Putting Perandus on maps occasionally has unlocked 5 or so unique maps (the rest I got by sharing unlocks with guild mates or friends). It is definitely possible to get them without actually doing any trading. My experience has been that Cadiro spawns in maybe 1 out of 3 maps you put Perandus on. Maybe I have been lucky but out of maybe 100 maps I've put Perandus on, I've had Cadiro sell me unique maps 10 or so times.

I'm confused why people even care that unique maps like grandmasters and perandus manor are even on the atlas, like you don't need 2 more maps to sustain or not sustain and if you are a completion and have to have it done, you can pay a price. These are completely different complaints then the whole I cant find unique maps at all unless I do specific maps and find them or buy them.

conceptually its about , they are making part of the core experience it should be balanced to be achievable realistically and doable realistically


perandus manor is not that at all, relying on the whims of a very rng heavy zana mod to bleed you dry of chaos.

And hall of the grandmasters is pretty much the text book example of how not to make pve content. its the fantastic 4 remake of poe content.

Neither of them really fit the mould well and having them on the main map .. empty is going to annoy the shit out of people.


I could pay out the ass to just get them unlocked .. i could brute force it .. which i have for most of the atlas because frankly .. the whole atlas map unlock system needs a ton of work.

but that is effectively just a band-aid i am paying to get around what should be well designed content that clearly isnt.

i am paying to get past shit literal shit and it has all the corresponding negative feelings that doing such things usually bring

bitterness

disgust

anger

..lots of saltyness

and disappointment.

this is core to why you dont see me trumpeting around with a phoenix supporter pack.. or any new supporter pack.

Ill support a working system.. this is not a working system. not normal maps and especially not the unique maps.

that may change later .. and i hope it does ... but so far .. its bad... really really bad

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Docbp87 wrote:

For what it's worth, I have gotten MOST of the unique maps I have unlocked from Cadiro. Putting Perandus on maps occasionally has unlocked 5 or so unique maps (the rest I got by sharing unlocks with guild mates or friends). It is definitely possible to get them without actually doing any trading. My experience has been that Cadiro spawns in maybe 1 out of 3 maps you put Perandus on. Maybe I have been lucky but out of maybe 100 maps I've put Perandus on, I've had Cadiro sell me unique maps 10 or so times.

Thanks for pointing this out; it is a method I had not considered, and is pretty clever.

But I don't think it's enough.

I would still prefer unique maps to drop as they did before, as uniques in maps, not tied to base map type.

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SunsetVista wrote:

Wait, the unique maps can only drop from their base type (the only thing adjacent to them) now?

As a "regular drop" yes, but they can also drop anywhere from "of singularity" strongboxes & inner treasure mobs and Uber Lab chests.

I would prefer a heavy weighting of maps.


if you are running map x , and maps y and z are connected to it . i want there to be a considerably higher chance of finding maps y and z over every other map on the atlas .. even if i am 125/125.



right now the atlas system is failing because all of a handful of snowballing issues



you cant target farm say museums if you have all the other t9s unlocked
this in turn means you cant target farm for the unique museum map to get it to drop
and this also means you cant effectively work toward what ever t10 / t9 you want to unlock next to the museum map

and you cant target farm with +2s either which hurts bad as well.


This has to change .

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Saltychipmunk wrote:

I would prefer a heavy weighting of maps.


if you are running map x , and maps y and z are connected to it . i want there to be a considerably higher chance of finding maps y and z over every other map on the atlas .. even if i am 125/125.

I think this is a really good idea. Right now, farming a specific map base for those connected to it has been so heavily dependent upon RNG that it's very discouraging.