[Bug] Unique Wyrmsign Gloves not working with Fragility Jewels (a common mathematical oversight)
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The Unique Wyrmsign Gloves say, "Gain Rampage while at Maximum Endurance Charges."
Therefore, if the default number of Endurance Charges a Character can have is 3, then using three Fragility Jewels that grant −1 Maximum Endurance Charges should work because zero is a number that can act as a Maximum number of Endurance Charges a Character can have (technically). Why does this not work? Even if this is intended it is wrong in a game like PoE that is all about numbers and getting numbers right to succeed. "Having nothing, nothing he can lose." as Shakespeare himself once said, rings true in the philosophical realm. However, "Having zero, zero he can lose." does not hold true in the mathematical realm since zero is an amount you can actually have once you have it. With all the above stated in mind, there are two things that can happen here. 1. Make a synergy between the Unique Wyrmsign Gloves and Fragility Jewels work to reflect proper mathematics or 2. Remove the Unique Fragility Jewels from the game serving no purpose in their current game state, anyway.  Thank you for looking into this. HeavyMetalGear When game developers ignore the criticism that would improve their game, the game fails. Just because a game receives a great amount of praise vs. only a small amount of criticism does not mean to call it a day and make a foolish misplaced assumption that it is perfect. (me) Last edited by HeavyMetalGear#2712 on Sep 17, 2016, 2:57:01 AM Last bumped on Sep 18, 2016, 11:06:01 PM
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How are you checking this? Did you socket the three Jewels and started killing stuff, making sure that your killspeed is high enough to activate the Rampage? It won't show up until you're a fair couple kills in.
Last edited by Vipermagi#0984 on Sep 17, 2016, 5:49:34 AM
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When things say "Gain rampage" or "rampage", they actually mean "Gain the ability to get rampage bonuses".
There is no icon or anything when you get rampage, except that rampage counter will display if you get enough kills in a row. Face it, all of your suggestions are worse than this idea:
http://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/657756 |
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When game developers ignore the criticism that would improve their game, the game fails. Just because a game receives a great amount of praise vs. only a small amount of criticism does not mean to call it a day and make a foolish misplaced assumption that it is perfect. (me) Last edited by HeavyMetalGear#2712 on Sep 18, 2016, 2:56:11 PM
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" Pardon my late reply. Exactly. I socketed 3 Fragility Jewels, started killing stuff for a while, and the effects of Rampage never came up one time like it usually does when using other Rampage setups. " I know what it means, but if you read my OP more closely, because ZERO is a number that is a numeric value, it can then act as a Maximum number of Endurance Charges a Character can have to gain the effects of Rampage. " Right, and my clear speed is fast enough to gain the effects of Rampage using other Rampage setups, except the setup utilizing 3 Fragility Jewels in conjunction with Unique Wyrmsign Gloves. When game developers ignore the criticism that would improve their game, the game fails. Just because a game receives a great amount of praise vs. only a small amount of criticism does not mean to call it a day and make a foolish misplaced assumption that it is perfect. (me) Last edited by HeavyMetalGear#2712 on Sep 18, 2016, 2:59:26 PM
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Just out of curiosity, do you gain Rampage if you only use 2 Jewels and therefore allow yourself to have 1 endurance charge? I know that that isn't what you are going for with your build (You want perm Rampage), but was just wondering if the issue could be related to using those jewels, or the actual zero charge amount is the issue. I don't have any of those jewels to be able to test this myself. :/
There have been some posts about the zero charge thing before and other interactions, but I can't seem to find any of them. My search-fu must be slipping. Edit: Did some digging. I found this: https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1676002/page/39#p13402831 So at some point it must have worked. "Programming today is a race between software engineers striving to build bigger and better idiot-proof programs, and the Universe trying to produce bigger and better idiots. So far, the Universe is winning." "Your mother was a hamster and your father smelt of elderberries!" Last edited by Aragorn14#7418 on Sep 18, 2016, 3:50:53 PM
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" I don't think your reply really relates at all to the text you quoted. I was just adding some extra info about rampage. I don't need to read your OP to realise that 0 is a number, and it counts as max if your max charges are 0. " Sounds like it might be a bug then! Some other things to try to find out more about the bug: - Make sure your max endurance charges is showing a 0 in your Character screen. - Try "gaining" an endurance charge (eg with warlord's mark) to see if that sets it off. (It would still be a bug if it worked that way though.) - Type /bug in chat, then post a screenshot of the bug report number in an instance where you noticed it not working. Face it, all of your suggestions are worse than this idea: http://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/657756 Last edited by dudiobugtron#4663 on Sep 18, 2016, 5:00:59 PM
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I just checked this out and didn't have any problems gaining Rampage with three Fragility Jewels and the gloves equipped. Are you sure you are killing at least 24 monsters without more than a few seconds between each? Anything lower than that will not cause the Rampage UI to appear (you still have Rampage before the UI is visible, you just dont see the counter until 24 kills).
If you are killing enough monsters fast enough and your character panel is showing your max endurance charges as 0, could you let me know which character you are experiencing this problem with? |
