Standard Stigma - Why the social inequality?

There are two differences between SC and HC:

1) In HC, your spirit is broken quickly and you submit the THE META™ very quickly. In SC, it takes longer for you to finally break.

2) In SC, I don't need to mash an Alt-F4 macro when I die.

Other than that, there's no differences at all.

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Perq wrote:

^ You must be fun at parties, lol. My wild guess would be that he was joking around. Not to mention that your post implies that girls are some kind of achievement that you have to work towards to get the best quality one. Fair reminded - girls are not things.

Also, you still failed to prove how Standard is easier than leagues.

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The difference between SC and HC is that everything you achieve in HC league has more worth, simply because of the risk-reward system. The fact that you only have one life, one chance, makes any achievement in HC, no matter how small, all that much sweeter. This is also what makes it that much harder.
It doesn't matter if it's technically the same content, it's all about the risk involved.
Think of the people that climb mount Everest. Would it have been such a feat if you knew you couldn't die and could attempt it over and over again? No, it would have no value because of the lack of stake in it.

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AkuTenshiiZero wrote:

There are two differences between SC and HC:

1) In HC, your spirit is broken quickly and you submit the THE META™ very quickly. In SC, it takes longer for you to finally break.

2) In SC, I don't need to mash an Alt-F4 macro when I die.

Other than that, there's no differences at all.

Bwahahahahaha, seriously though, point 2 :).

Regarding both HC and temp league people that berate standard players my opinion has become this after playing standard only for a long time myself:

HC players just like to feel that their opinion/way of playing is superior, there is pretty much no other explanation. They want to take a jab at people who don't want their progress to vanish in a second because of lag/desync/tiredness/whatever. There is nothing about HC that makes it inherently better than Standard. They just want to feel superior to justify that they have to start over on stupid deaths. Regarding HC both perm and temp, I would assume their economies would be the healthier of any leagues if they had a larger consistent player base as softcore. So they do have that going for them, or would if perm HC wasn't a ghost town.

Regarding temp league players, they do have a point just like HC that standard is a dumping ground. I personally think any HC characters should be gone on death/ have a option to do so, the former maybe giving HC players the realization that if all their goodies didn't rip to standard, they wouldn't be able to feel so rich and powerful versus somebody with 3 times the good items, but took their time and died alot to achieve it. But regarding Standard being a dumping ground in general, yeah, it is. The way GGG has treated standard is that of a dumping ground, they honestly don't seem to give two shits about standard players.

This does not mean standard players are bad or anything. Similar to HC, some people don't have time to start over every new league or just want to start a new character only when they feel like it. There is nothing inherently wrong with not caring about new mechanics enough to stay away from restarting. The only thing inherently wrong is that standard economy is becoming a cesspool of overinflated stuff, sellers who refuse to turn their standard stash tabs off public out of laziness and won't hop leagues for even big sales (yes even if you have like 40+ public tabs, fuck you if you do this, it is like leaving the lights on in your store and refusing to sell anything to certain people even though you don't close for another few hours. Close them the next time you will be on before new leagues hit.), and no real item and currency sinks. This ultimately makes standard economy look terrible since a new player will have to work extra hard to afford x item because the inflation makes it 30c where in a temp league it is 5c.

If you want to play standard, go right ahead, nothing wrong with that. The amount of time you are investing into a single league/character probably outbalances the inflation to some extent. Go nuts if it makes you happy. It made me happy for over a year. Just don't let temp and HC attitudes get you down. Good people in those leagues wouldn't pick on you for your play style. What you are seeing in hostile posts directed at standard players is the asshole entitlement squad.

LMK when there is a supporter only realm before going on about social inequality in a video game. Also lmk when there is a supporter only realm so I can play in it.

Personally I don't see social inequality, but I do see a massive gear inequality.

The problem I have with standard is that the amount of currency you need to invest in your character to be decent is somewhat ludicrous.

New leagues usually have new skills and new economy. This means that if you can farm efficiently, you can get pretty decent gear (A-) for very good prices. The price value in leagues allows me to make way more builds and as a result is more fun for me regardless of the league "gimmick".

When people say "who cares it's only standard" most are referring to the terrible economic situation there. I'm pretty sure most players are intelligent to know that shaper on standard is no harder or easier than shaper in league.

When I look down on standard it's because I feel like standard is full of country-club enthusiasts with a ton of currency that actually look down on standard players that aren't equally as endowed with exalts/chaos.

It's a two-way street. The affluent in standard look down on the poor in standard. Leagues allow for this inequality to be completely dispersed.

I will always be a league player that uses standard only to test mechanics for this reason.

Everybody here is so wrong.

Majority of players arent playing standard.
Majority of players arent playing leagues.
Majority of players arent playing HC.

The reality is...
Majority of players arent playing POE at all. GGG should work on that, then talk about 3% of ARPG playerbase that POE have. Everybody fight over what we have, not of what it could have been.

One of major reasons why POE have such low playerbase is league system and POE economy crumbling after longer period of times. Leagues arent actualy harder, they are easier to play than standard, since economy is more stable there and they always have some "free power bonus". Well but neither group have nothing to boast about, be it standard, league or hc.

the only "fresh" economy league is HCtemp league.
SCtemp is trash like standard, even worth since there is so few ex there and so much chaos.

I felt so inadequate in standard that I have ordered 4k worth of puter parts due to arrive on 26th. Still gonna play standard but pretty much guaranteed to have more fps the the league plebs lol... But seriously if the roided 1080s don't get me 100 fps stable I'm gonna be dissapointed.

I have no idea, leagues are also veeeery easy for new players to get into with the fresh economy and all, starting in standard is a super hard mode with the massive inflation and everything decent being unaffordable unless that new player decides to RMT.