Standard Stigma - Why the social inequality?

I think players who don't learn from their mistakes and deaths early in the game in standard eventually learn them in the maping system. Unfortunately there are some things that can kill you that are unavoidable, especially for certain builds. Being punished for that in hardcore or being punished for server issues or poor pc quality does suck, and that is why I for example don't play hardcore. Not because of its difficulty, or the possibility of dying and being sent to hardcore, but because there are ways of dying that are unavoidable, because there are ways of dying that are out of my control, or that there are few builds that are effective past T10 maps.

People can cheese their way through hardcore by being carried in a party, or buying kills. That means they also are not learning as well.

As a matter of correcting the record, now many (almost triple) more people play leagues than Standard. That ship sailed long ago.

I dislike standard league, and I think it is an inferior and less fun league. I do not think YOU are inferior. I'm happy if you are happy and supporting the game. When a new player asks where they should play, I simply provide my opinion which is admittedly strong. I do it, not to spite you, but because I honestly want them to experience PoE at its fullest potential.

I dislike the stale nature of Standard league. It should have an annual wipe or so.

yeah i never used to play leagues, now i play leagues just to buff my standard monies

and i played hardcore perandus to buff my standard (made bank)

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_Zerk_ wrote:

Only inferior people need to feel superior :)

+1

I would never play Standard, for several reasons, but do whatever makes you happy! I must admit that deep down I do carry a slight bit of this discrimination toward these players since new leagues are fun and fresh and new and I can't tell how a league that has been going for five years is more enticing than something new. But for someone to have a genuine disgust, or to patronise someone for playing Standard is ludicrous and they should be ignored. It's a game! Have fun the way you want to! Ignore the haters. And your ideas to make Standard better sound great.

Also, guys, Standard and SOFTCORE aren't the same thing! :D This is about leagues, not HC/SC

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Jgizle wrote:

For me I love standard as it allows me to easily find items I desire for a reasonable price, which allows me to try new builds, and increase replayability and overall enjoyment of the game.

That's the only thing that matters. If you are happy playing in Standard then good for you. Don't fall under peer / community pressure of "what is the right thing to play", just do what you like.

Standard is great for solo SF, long-term play, grinding to 100 or trading for legacy items. I myself prefer to play temp. leagues, because after 90, the game becomes a slow chore, looting is not fun anymore & content not challenging - your char is already geared up to do 99% of the content. Playing from 1 to 90 in a fresh start temp. league, offers most of the fun, imo.

Play what you like, enjoy your time and ignore people who do annoying stuff. You'll sleep better, and have more fun that way. :-)

Most people are dumb. That one thing you have to remember. Seek out those who aren't and have fun with them. Ignore the rest, and let them rot.

There is little to no way to change that - changing game mechanics won't fix people being toxic. If people chose to be assholes, they will remain assholes, no matter what.

yes it is a problem, sadly atm it stay at this order.

standard players

league players think they are better then standard players

Hardcore league players think they are better then league and standard players


this plague is the same in soooo many games.

When you've lived more than 20 years of your life, you'll start realizing that you'll find idiots and morons in every corner of the world. If we're going a take offense every time we hear them speak or read their words, we'll go crazy before you know.

Enjoy the game the way you like, don't mind haters!