Change Elemental Rolls on 2H Weapons
" They are for rt melee. There is use for those mods in crit builds already. Actualy a 2h weapon with high crit and those useless mods can outperform phy build with certain skills. True you can t bleed or poison, but status ailment are much more powerful. 30elemental damage with weapon + x-x elemtal damage is a very powerful combination. If GGG would raise the mods numbers, they should become very rare like t1 phy mods. MAybe it is not bad there is not too powerful elem mods for 2h considering with crit it can do wonders. Anyway I see oro as the facebreaker of elemental 2h, you don t really need to create rare that do the same or maybe if you could get lightning and cold mods only. Poe Pvp experience https://youtu.be/Z6eg3aB_V1g?t=302 Last edited by Head_Less#6633 on Jul 31, 2016, 4:42:28 AM
|
|
|
The problem comes from a single source, lack of mod on weapons like +x% physical damage but for elements. They should just change the +x% physical damage to +x% all local damage. Then just adjust all elemental damage to levels of physical or so.
Last edited by herflik#4390 on Jul 31, 2016, 4:43:39 AM
|
|
" That s an awesome idea, would consider not giving this mods to bows tho, would be broken. Poe Pvp experience
https://youtu.be/Z6eg3aB_V1g?t=302 |
|
" Hyaon's Fury already does that and id take a mirrored phys 1h ANY DAY and use instead. because i can turn this phys damage into elements with conversion and still keep the scaling from the tree. with flat ele rolls i do not have pretty much any scaling from the tree i have yet to see a 2h ele (non-Oro) ele weapon put to use - if you say there are uses etc - please share the build(s) please |
|
" There is fireborn jewel, if GGG put out same jewel for other element you could get an easier way to scale elem damage on tree. About builds, Crit ST using 2h weapon with elemental damage nods is very strong. Slower attack speed than 1h but still very strong. Any skill using projectiles is very strong with those crit swords since all you need is projectile multipliers and elemental gems multipliers. For exemple you would think it is counter productive to use frost blade with pure elem weapon but in fact the most important part are the projectiles + anger/wrath. I never had any problem getting 50k+ dps with pure elem weapon using those sort of skills and lmp/gmp/multistrike. Also cyclone elementalI get the same amount of dps than with a 600 dps sword if I use crit items and auras. Icecrash can do wonders too ( but it is so slow and EQ is much better :/). It is true a lot of sword skills are phy based and some can t be used with elemental weapons like puncture. I would love to see an earthquake type skill for elemental sword 2h melee weapon only, an elemental skill for sword giving chance to freeze/ignite/shock wudl be awesome. Finaly, there is grand spectrum.... Make a tree using 10-13 grand spectrum and welcome inc 900% elem damage! Poe Pvp experience https://youtu.be/Z6eg3aB_V1g?t=302 Last edited by Head_Less#6633 on Jul 31, 2016, 5:19:12 AM
|
|
" You're joking, right? Even a PERFECT staff with 3 T1 elemental mods, T1 AS and T1 crit is subpar to . Same could be said for swords. Bows lose to Windripper. Sure, you CAN make a great-rolloed elemental 2-hander work. There was a build that worked well with white Crude Bow even! But that doesnt mean that build will be competive with those who use a proper physical weapons. " A good idea, indeed. But to use it at its fulled, high-tier %local damage mods should have the same odds as other mods, not that tiny 1/5000 for T1 or 1/2000 for T2. Otherwise, it will be incredibly hard to roll a good elemental weapon, even harder than physical one. Its rarity will be too low for what it does. IGN: MortalKombat Molten Strike build guide: https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1346504 There is no knowledge That is not power Last edited by MortalKombat3#6961 on Jul 31, 2016, 6:32:08 AM
|
|
" id welcome some more 'builds' and less 'words'. stuff you wrote might be true but id prefer something more substantial (and please, 13 grand spectrums is 26EX atm so i expect stuff like that to OBLITERATE EVERYTHING if a 4EX RotC + 15c Kintsugi allows easy-mode-farm-anything experience) i also do not judge builds by dps (esp inflated with multistrike) but by a clearspeed showcase in maps with stuff like +60% resist or cursed with enfeeble. |
|
" Look, we all agreed elem mods should get higher I just pointed out with a little imagination it is not hard to get very high dps with those already. I forgot cold steel in the mix of jewels able to convert phy nods to elem nods Put cold steal + fire born and those sword get cold+fire mods increased damage a lot! I also think because elem mods can with certain skills perfom very well those mods should get as rare as the best t1 physical mods. About pooping out a build I will not do that because I use those in PVP. You will believe it or not, IDK just know it is possible. To finish grand spectrum is 26ex but since you compared with mirrored weapons worth 300ex, i think it is fair to use them as exemple then. With elemental build you don t care about resist btw, you get Total penetration at least 69% without counting corrupted gloves with elemental penetration/curse on hit/cwdt elem weakness. then there is broken vinktar for more pen too lol. It demand a little more effort than going brainless phy nods on tree for sure but it also mean it is very well balanced already, let s not break it and make it too op. Poe Pvp experience https://youtu.be/Z6eg3aB_V1g?t=302 Last edited by Head_Less#6633 on Jul 31, 2016, 8:14:56 AM
|
|
|
so much anger and hidden insults (little imagination, more effort etc) but so little substance
i do not care about pvp builds as these are irrelevant to pve but if you claim it is all good - there should be builds around you can share/link to. if you have none - please stop creating 'fuss' and focus on actual examples/mechanics etc you have these to start with: what can one do with weapons like these except 'off to the vendor we go' because currently this is the only sensible way these weapons should be used - as an alt shard generator |
|
" haha what you talk about, there is no anger and no insult. It is just fact making build using those 2h weapons is harder and demand more imagination. Don t take things personal haha no need drama. Sorry i will not do your builds, if you want a build using those just do it yourself or go in gameplay%discussion. I know very little about 1h builds since i use most often2h axe and swords. I know however builds called "Elemental 'Buzzsaw' you could do with 1h foil. Might be possible to adapt for 1h other weapons. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gsFG1za9xiE I explained already my pov and all that matter is dev read the OP in the end. You don t agree with me fine, maybe one day streamer will do build so everyone can see how this can be powerful. BTW we are talking about 2h melee I don t know why you link those :P: and i already said i agree with op higher mods would be nice as long they are rare. So we can all agree with op YOu want help with 2h I already hints enough: fireborn, cold steel, auras, crit, penetration on gear and gems. About 1h and bow i don t know anything but dyadus and grand spectrum. Poe Pvp experience https://youtu.be/Z6eg3aB_V1g?t=302 Last edited by Head_Less#6633 on Jul 31, 2016, 10:42:44 AM
|
|
