Watch out it is a BEAR!

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Simplesim45 wrote:

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lapiz wrote:

I'd also like to remind this char is purely made for a bo7 duel. I'd imagine there can be better sarn clearers than this. The picture you provided is correct yeah but it doesn't really matter as I can spam the traps indefinitely (which is very underrated tbh)

Ah well this is where it differs.

I built mine for sarn and 3v3 CTF.

More room to move so the only thing that lands hits on me are offscreeners. Trappers just walk into my traps constantly (from the current playtesting).


I figured I was correct in my assumption of the cluster trap behavior. My playstyle is to have long lasting traps and move far away from them. So I want those traps to 1 shot. They're more of a surprise kill thing than a pressure thing like you're doing.

I do not run out of traps because I'm not required to spam them.

I'd be curious to see your trap damage against a tanky character.

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lapiz wrote:

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Simplesim45 wrote:

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lapiz wrote:

I'd also like to remind this char is purely made for a bo7 duel. I'd imagine there can be better sarn clearers than this. The picture you provided is correct yeah but it doesn't really matter as I can spam the traps indefinitely (which is very underrated tbh)

Ah well this is where it differs.

I built mine for sarn and 3v3 CTF.

More room to move so the only thing that lands hits on me are offscreeners. Trappers just walk into my traps constantly (from the current playtesting).


I figured I was correct in my assumption of the cluster trap behavior. My playstyle is to have long lasting traps and move far away from them. So I want those traps to 1 shot. They're more of a surprise kill thing than a pressure thing like you're doing.

I do not run out of traps because I'm not required to spam them.

I'd be curious to see your trap damage against a tanky character.

Im guessing no one has tried to clear ur traps before :P a simple cluster+anytrap works wonders and destroys the traps even through clever construction (huge trigger radius of your traps makes the clearing very easy if there is only 1 trap) This should be a huge counter against you in CTF I think.

Personally I sort of hate running around in sarn with 6k ehp with 0 block and dodge :s You get hit by every projectile cast by vlahd & co and die -.-

Anyways, without ele overload my avg noncrit damage is 2,6k per trap and with it 3,2k per trap soooo if all hit and im eleloaded it can 1shot around 12k~13k hp even without lucky crits (which up the damage to around 4k per hit).

Also I think I'm going to get rid of that TC aura and use TC on hit gloves and herald of ash instead. This allows me to have more mana open which results in me being a lot more tanky again (aka I should be able to survive any single hit traps/mines excluded). The TC aura is strong but quite easily countered by rolling a pathfinder.

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Simplesim45 wrote:

From the tests I ran while I was working on my vortex trapper, curse on hit gloves don't work with traps :S

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lapiz wrote:

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Simplesim45 wrote:

From the tests I ran while I was working on my vortex trapper, curse on hit gloves don't work with traps :S

the dot from the trap wont proc the curse, the actual spell dmg hit from the vortex should though?

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Simplesim45 wrote:

I've always wondered if a curse gets applied after the damage or as soon as the "hit" is confirmed (meaning the curse would apply before the damage).

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IceDeal wrote:

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Simplesim45 wrote:

I've always wondered if a curse gets applied after the damage or as soon as the "hit" is confirmed (meaning the curse would apply before the damage).

It aply before damages, that's why CoH Vuln Gloves are so potent on phys build as it act as another "more" Multiplier.

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Mark_GGG wrote:

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hcl wrote:

Does the actual HIT that triggers the Curse _already benefit from the Curse_ ?

No, because you have to hit them to apply the curse, therefore they weren't cursed until you hit them - you were hitting an uncursed enemy, and dealt damage as such.