Who else is not going to play PoE anymore because of the lab?

every 3rd thread is about that lab... if you dont like it - DONT FARM LAB! Simply as it is!

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mouz wrote:

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Nizreb915 wrote:

"the lab is poison" "the lab is cancer"

Let me know when you people have real problems some day. Every time you pretend the world is crumbling around you, you lose credibility.

I can't wait for league to start here in a few hours maybe the haters will find some other game that will bore them to tears and be miserable about.

The lab is great. If you find it and other things in your life totally boring, you are probably projecting from the fact that you are boring.

Funny, you're being just a tad bit melodramatic here aren't you? 'world is crumbling around you' just by stating ONE thing in the game is really stupid cancer, and it is. Who's the one losing credibility here? It's only the poison lab that is boring people to tears here. And lol @ that last sentence.

"The lab is cancer" whoever had/has cancer will find this sentence offensive as hell. How can you actually compare a possibly deadly disease with something in a video game you dislike....

So the ones saying things like that ARE the ones being melodramatic.

While I haven't used that analogy myself, I don't find it one bit melodramatic. Cancer is usually a slow-killing disease that starts small and works its way into vital areas. It is thought by some to be a mutation of healthy cells into cancerous cells that reproduce, creating tumorous growths. ...

Just like the Labyrinth, in some people's opinion: started small with the first 3, and just 6 ascendancy points (possibly ignored and not vital) but is growing now into an endgame maze with 2 more points, and the likelyhood that the game will be balanced around having said points (not to mention enchants), which is making it creep into vital areas... and the content is boring and useless to the people that hate it, essentially making it a tumorous non-played area of the game to them. If the tumor isn't removed from vital areas of the game for them, the game will die to them (and if enough people don't like it and start playing less, or quitting, or supporting the game with money), then the game could very well die.

So, no, it's not a melodramatic statement... it's quite fitting.

What we need is some sort of chemotherapy that gets rid of lab haters. This doctor prescribes a fifth labrynth and even more traps.

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Zaludoz wrote:

While I haven't used that analogy myself, I don't find it one bit melodramatic. Cancer is usually a slow-killing disease that starts small and works its way into vital areas. It is thought by some to be a mutation of healthy cells into cancerous cells that reproduce, creating tumorous growths. ...

Just like the Labyrinth, in some people's opinion: started small with the first 3, and just 6 ascendancy points (possibly ignored and not vital) but is growing now into an endgame maze with 2 more points, and the likelyhood that the game will be balanced around having said points (not to mention enchants), which is making it creep into vital areas... and the content is boring and useless to the people that hate it, essentially making it a tumorous non-played area of the game to them. If the tumor isn't removed from vital areas of the game for them, the game will die to them (and if enough people don't like it and start playing less, or quitting, or supporting the game with money), then the game could very well die.

So, no, it's not a melodramatic statement... it's quite fitting.

Nice analysis of the said analogy sir. GJ


Just one thing i want to remind people of, with the new prophecy league and the changes GGG wanted to counter the power creep of ascendancies and they did. If you look closer to the patch notes you will see that the game will be more and more balanced around ascendancies :


So no more hypothetical talk about the game being exactly the same and how Ascendancy points are optional (well they never were but lets cater to whiteknightism for a while), Chris explicitly says "Due to the power creep from Ascendancy, Cruel, Merciless and Map content requires various rebalances. Rather than apply arbitrary buffs to life and damage, we have instead added monsters with new skills to higher difficulties, and have applied various corrections to specific monster skills".

Not that a solid build wont manage to overcome those obstacles without Ascendancies, but at least that turd of an argument can finally be forgotten.

Oh another question for the white knights everywhere : If fishing rewards bestowed permanent character buffs instead of the temporary ones they do now, how would you feel your character progression/customization/optimization was gated behind it? Would it be right for an ARPG to gate vital character min-maxing content behind a fishing simulator?

@Nizreb915 Good job mate, promote hate, division and discord with infuriatingly ignorant and audacious comments. Like the labyrinth cant get better or there is something wrong for people asking to enjoy the game they used to love and GGG promised to make. Cause surely a frogger/prince of percia/indiana jones clone is not what i signed for when came here to PoE.

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Regulator wrote:

@Nizreb915 Good job mate, promote hate, division and discord with infuriatingly ignorant and audacious comments. Like the labyrinth cant get better or there is something wrong for people asking to enjoy the game they used to love and GGG promised to make. Cause surely a frogger/prince of percia/indiana jones clone is not what i signed for when came here to PoE.

Yep hypocracy always a good way to make your point.

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Regulator wrote:

If fishing rewards bestowed permanent character buffs instead of the temporary ones they do now, how would you feel your character progression/customization/optimization was gated behind it?

Dunno about you but I'd suddenly develop an unhealthy amount of interest in rods and lures.

Think about it this way - whenever something forces you to leave your comfort zone, you're essentially improving yourself, a bit of fishing never hurt anyone.

Ok, almost anyone.

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raics wrote:

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Regulator wrote:

If fishing rewards bestowed permanent character buffs instead of the temporary ones they do now, how would you feel your character progression/customization/optimization was gated behind it?

Dunno about you but I'd suddenly develop an unhealthy amount of interest in rods and lures.

Think about it this way - whenever something forces you to leave your comfort zone, you're essentially improving yourself, a bit of fishing never hurt anyone.

Ok, almost anyone.

Spoiler

did i ever say that i enjoy reading your posts. well, i do. thanks for making my day.

i'm always amazed how players who can sink hundreds of hours mindlessly grinding repetitive content like maps can get repelled by doing three 15 minute runs through some easy repetitive content.

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and regarding "that's not the game i originally signed onto": neither of us long term players experienced anything different.

the worst change has been when ggg turned around 180° and killed any competition in the game by introducing permanent loot because of some permanent forum whiners. that was a change to existing content worth raging, not your easy peasy 3 or 4 itzaro runs which just got added.

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vio wrote:

did i ever say that i enjoy reading your posts.

No, I don't think so, probably because they aren't always enjoyable :)

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raics wrote:

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vio wrote:

did i ever say that i enjoy reading your posts.

No, I don't think so, probably because they aren't always enjoyable :)

Wise, funny and humble.

I would've wanted his babies if I had ovaries, now I just want to buy him a beer. OK, actually to both of you but I won't talk about the ovaries thing or someone might decide I would've been a slut.

To answer the op´s question:

Me, if they dont change it.

Because, a ascendancy class is (now) mandatory for me to play and progress in a acceptable time.

I liked playing Frogger at my first games console "Philips G7000" but POE Lab is a pain in the ass for me.
I´m to old to play things that I dont like....

A chance that GGG change it? I dont think so.
The older players could remember, we needed 1000 pages of discussions, that GGG give us the choise to chose now our loot allocation...

Chris wanted some hc feeling in sc, fine, it is his game.
But I dont like it anymore.