Why Poe is becoming PAY TO WIN GAME - free discusion

"
CrazylikE wrote:
Also, when I say win, I mean you will win the race to 100 which gives you nothing, so what did you really win? Nothing lol. Nice advantage.


Full time streamers profit based on viewers. The top racers get more viewers. Winning the race or just being one of the top contenders translates into real world cash money for guys like Havoc and Zizaran.

Also, for anyone interested, the top people who race to 100 use more than four tabs. If using more than four tabs was in any way a drawback, you can bet your ass they wouldn't be doing it. Most players benefit from extra stash tabs much more than the guys at the very top do, though.

The only reason some of the top guys don't gain as much of an advantage from stash tabs is that they sometimes have people who sell gear for them them and roll their maps. You really don't need a bunch of extra tabs if your drops are all sold through somebody else's stash instead. That only applies to a tiny, tiny percentage of players, though.
Two players race to 100. The guy with more stash tabs gets there first and quits to wait for the next league. The second guy gets there later and quits until the next league. Did the guy who quit first win? Or did the guy who played more win? I'd say the guy who played more won because playing is winning this game and not playing is losing.
Guild Leader The Amazon Basin <BASIN>
Play Nice and Show Some Class www.theamazonbasin.com
I ran a 100 meter sprint with a friend of mine.
His time was 11:50 mine was 12:14.
From a reasonable point of view I acknowledged my defeat.
He was always faster than me anyways, so no big surprise here for me.

But then I noticed, this time ha was running in the newest generation of adidas running shoes while I was barefeet, because I can't afford to buy sneakers. So, so that means, I think that means he had an unfair advantage over me, because he could have paid for better racing conditions. No fair!
PAY TO WIIIIN !!!!
My original account Dushan is banned.
I miss my Kiwi and Demigod's Presence.
:(
By reading any of Duchan's forum posts you agree to the following Duchan forum posts Terms of Use:
http://i.imgur.com/tmkhs22.png
old but gold.
> Alt Arts for Sale: /view-thread/3260276


Contact support@grindinggear.com to report issues relating to the game or forum. Thanks!
Hilarious
Recruiting for Archnemesis League/Siege of the Atlas!
Umbra Exiles:
https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/3244875
The Official Path of Exile Guild Directory:
https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1192567
"
Tejlonpl wrote:
I would like to know your oppinions , Saying that poe IS or IISNT Pay to win . I have mine but I will present it later . There is no supprise when you give the present before the party ;)


Not sure if this is how discussion works. Last times I checked, it was like this:

- You present your theory/topic/whatever
- State your stand on it, your observations, suggestions, whatever
- Other people discuss what you wrote
- You come to conclusions and take actions (this never happens here, but lets not talk about it... :V)

You can't just say "Pay to win?" and expect people to start talking (or at least make sense). State your stance on it, we'll talk.
Real knowledge is to know the extent of one's ignorance.
Ignorance more frequently begets confidence than does knowledge.
https://joeduncan123.imgur.com
https://joeduncan1234.imgur.com
"
Jennik wrote:
"
CrazylikE wrote:
Also, when I say win, I mean you will win the race to 100 which gives you nothing, so what did you really win? Nothing lol. Nice advantage.


Full time streamers profit based on viewers. The top racers get more viewers. Winning the race or just being one of the top contenders translates into real world cash money for guys like Havoc and Zizaran.

Also, for anyone interested, the top people who race to 100 use more than four tabs. If using more than four tabs was in any way a drawback, you can bet your ass they wouldn't be doing it. Most players benefit from extra stash tabs much more than the guys at the very top do, though.

The only reason some of the top guys don't gain as much of an advantage from stash tabs is that they sometimes have people who sell gear for them them and roll their maps. You really don't need a bunch of extra tabs if your drops are all sold through somebody else's stash instead. That only applies to a tiny, tiny percentage of players, though.


Wut ? The same guys who barely pick any items on the ground ? Watch the 2w leagues, none of them used more than 4 tabs ... because it's inefficient in xp/hour to pick items, price them, trade ... Only very few items are picked and / or traded.
"Zazan":
*Cast On Damage Taken: The level requirement of gems augmented by Cast on Damage Taken may not exceed the level requirement of the Cast on Damage Taken gem.
*Fixed a bug where people logged in to play
I was really puzzled by fact, how some players are trying to convince themselves, that in POE we have no "pay to win" elements.


After a short while I've discovered, that reason of this is cognitive dissonance.

"
ventiman wrote:
seeing even streamer pcs struggle to keep up fps in perandus packs frost besrer beyond and so on you can say that some builds are limited to having a really good computer

coc discharger full emberwake prolif and some others

itzaro is the newest example of unneeded gfxporn 2000 grafics lagging 2016 systems...lovely

rest is convienience

ssd gives you an edge in races
good pc makes you lag and crash less


That'll only make it pay to win if GGG starts selling PCs :P
"
Xalthotun wrote:
I was really puzzled by fact, how some players are trying to convince themselves, that in POE we have no "pay to win" elements.


After a short while I've discovered, that reason of this is cognitive dissonance.



if by "cognitive dissonance" you mean that there is no evidence of any P2W in Poe, you would be correct. Otherwise you are totally wrong and projecting your personal biases.

Report Forum Post

Report Account:

Report Type

Additional Info