[Balance] Kinetic Blast Pierce-Explode Discrepancy

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goetzjam wrote:

However as you've said he can and does die to reflect, which means you need to be absolutely careful of how you approach the mobs in the map.

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Baelrog wrote:

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goetzjam wrote:

However as you've said he can and does die to reflect, which means you need to be absolutely careful of how you approach the mobs in the map.

Actually, I tried to point out that he somehow doesn't die to reflect Rares. But only dies to maps with the reflect mod.

The whole problem I have with this killing everything two screen in front is that in completely outclasses the clear speed of ~95%+ of all other skills/builds and therefor needs to be looked at. It doesn't come with enough drawbacks. Other skills that do the same, and thus also belong to that ~5% (current Spark/LA/etc) should also be addressed.

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goetzjam wrote:

As for wand skills, there is literally just 2 of them, KB and PS, PS again isn't that great because its main purpose was charge generation. You can use other skills like frenzy, barrage or ele hit, but those aren't exclusive to wands.


As for FOTM, who the fuck cares, wanders in general arent that popular, so your suggesting making KB worst because its "good" because PS is shit because they've introduced mechanics that makes its primary purpose pointless.


As for your wander, i bet it does substantially less damage then the deadeye version, which as he is describing is an issue because in a 3 man party it can clear the whole screen. I'll give you a hit bow builds can do the same fucking thing, without using just 1 skill and without specifically selecting deadeye.

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Baelrog wrote:

Even without HoI he destroys screens. He has Vaal Pact and he rarely dies (if ever) to reflect mobs. I do agree that wands need some proper skills, but this is just ridiculous. When we play in a three man group (Earthquaker/Trapper/Wander). Nobody touches a mob ever, except for the Wander. He actually kills so far away that items that drop aren't allocated. The build isn't that vulnerable either, he never seems to die. That only happens when we aren't paying attention and the map has reflect.

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Vesuvius079 wrote:

You are missing the obvious, they also need to buff power siphon. Both skills should be viable and have a legitimate purpose. It's stupid that the best way to get single target damage as a wander is to drop a frost wall so KB can shotgun. There should be a real single target wand skill.

It isn't healthy for the game for aoe skills to be better at single target damage than single target skills are. It also isn't healthy for builds to be so powerful that a single attack clears multiple screens in a party. What is the point of other party members in that scenario?

Skills with broken scaling mechanics like LA and KB need to be brought back down to earth in order for other skills to compete with them. What's the point of adding shit like melee totems if you know any build that uses it is playing with a handicap? GGG keeps trying to add skills that promote more tactical gameplay but they barely see use because it's easier to just pick up a piscator's or a voltaxic and blast multiple screens at a time.

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The fact that every solid ranged clears faster, now thats an issue.

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Baelrog wrote:

Absolutely true, that doesn't make it any better though, on the contrary. I would really like to see some change in this superiority of ranged.