|||||| [2.5.2d] The Endless Retch (Updated 1/29 w/Temp League Guide!) ||||||

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FEELme2013 wrote:
Bad news


spent 9ex on this 5-linked axe and another 20ex to 6link it. :/

Gonna farm for more currency before i can try this build. no budget now


Ouch! You'll get there eventually, don't worry.
The Endless Retch: https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1655814
Quick question, is their a point where getting more attack speed on jewels doesnt matter, like does cyclone have a attack speed cap where its not worth getting it anymore and its better just getting damage mods on jewels
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gm08872 wrote:
Quick question, is their a point where getting more attack speed on jewels doesnt matter, like does cyclone have a attack speed cap where its not worth getting it anymore and its better just getting damage mods on jewels


There is no attack speed cap, nor are there diminishing returns.

There is, however, a point at which flat or % damage will give you more total DPS than attack speed. A balanced approach is best.
The Endless Retch: https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1655814
Last edited by Dakoos on Oct 23, 2016, 8:40:23 PM
Hey bro, ive been playing this build for like a month, and I was wondering if we could drop daresso and mabye go CI. What are your thoughts on that? I just think it could be much tankier that way.
EDIT: I tinkered with the tree, and its pretty hard to get that much es, but this is what i came up with
Spoiler
https://www.pathofexile.com/fullscreen-passive-skill-tree/AAAABAQBAQHcBAcIZwxwDXwOXBFQFSAVuBXXGDwYVhhqGbQabB8CIvQknSj6LL8s6S2DMfsy0TW5NsU5Uju2PAU8LT1fQYdEDUVHRX5JsUyzUdpSU1ZIVmNXyVfiWAdb9F85Xz9famJaZ5tq-mwLbRluaW87d-N35XloeaF_xn_jgpuCx4Nfg8yE2YauhrOGtIdqi5mPRo_6kyeTOpUkljKXlZf0mjubLZtYm6Gdrp_foS-lNacIpyupbqmUrj6wq7KAtAy3PrlvvSe-ir6nwBrAZsEEwcXEuMauyFvI8MrT0B_Q0NN-1fjXz9gk3ePkUeq66-7sGO0g73rvfO-I7-v05vVh9qP3wfk3-eg=

I dont know if it is even viable, but its got a shitload of es and we are in the es meta. It focuses more an attack speed, as we get a ton of it from tree. It also has zo so we take advantage of the life regen nodes we must take for pathing.
Last edited by erago12 on Oct 26, 2016, 2:32:33 PM
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erago12 wrote:
Hey bro, ive been playing this build for like a month, and I was wondering if we could drop daresso and mabye go CI. What are your thoughts on that? I just think it could be much tankier that way.
EDIT: I tinkered with the tree, and its pretty hard to get that much es, but this is what i came up with
Spoiler
https://www.pathofexile.com/fullscreen-passive-skill-tree/AAAABAQBAQHcBAcIZwxwDXwOXBFQFSAVuBXXGDwYVhhqGbQabB8CIvQknSj6LL8s6S2DMfsy0TW5NsU5Uju2PAU8LT1fQYdEDUVHRX5JsUyzUdpSU1ZIVmNXyVfiWAdb9F85Xz9famJaZ5tq-mwLbRluaW87d-N35XloeaF_xn_jgpuCx4Nfg8yE2YauhrOGtIdqi5mPRo_6kyeTOpUkljKXlZf0mjubLZtYm6Gdrp_foS-lNacIpyupbqmUrj6wq7KAtAy3PrlvvSe-ir6nwBrAZsEEwcXEuMauyFvI8MrT0B_Q0NN-1fjXz9gk3ePkUeq66-7sGO0g73rvfO-I7-v05vVh9qP3wfk3-eg=

I dont know if it is even viable, but its got a shitload of es and we are in the es meta. It focuses more an attack speed, as we get a ton of it from tree. It also has zo so we take advantage of the life regen nodes we must take for pathing.


Yes, it's certainly possible. You'll have to find a way to deal with freeze and you'll lose a good chunk of AOE. I tried a hybrid version last month, and came to the conclusion that it's just not as good without a reliable way to regen both ES and Life.

What is your total ES with that tree? I'm hoping that they buff life soon, so I'm hesitant to invest heavily in ES gear.
The Endless Retch: https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1655814
Last edited by Dakoos on Oct 26, 2016, 2:36:47 PM
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Dakoos wrote:
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erago12 wrote:
Hey bro, ive been playing this build for like a month, and I was wondering if we could drop daresso and mabye go CI. What are your thoughts on that? I just think it could be much tankier that way.
EDIT: I tinkered with the tree, and its pretty hard to get that much es, but this is what i came up with
Spoiler
https://www.pathofexile.com/fullscreen-passive-skill-tree/AAAABAQBAQHcBAcIZwxwDXwOXBFQFSAVuBXXGDwYVhhqGbQabB8CIvQknSj6LL8s6S2DMfsy0TW5NsU5Uju2PAU8LT1fQYdEDUVHRX5JsUyzUdpSU1ZIVmNXyVfiWAdb9F85Xz9famJaZ5tq-mwLbRluaW87d-N35XloeaF_xn_jgpuCx4Nfg8yE2YauhrOGtIdqi5mPRo_6kyeTOpUkljKXlZf0mjubLZtYm6Gdrp_foS-lNacIpyupbqmUrj6wq7KAtAy3PrlvvSe-ir6nwBrAZsEEwcXEuMauyFvI8MrT0B_Q0NN-1fjXz9gk3ePkUeq66-7sGO0g73rvfO-I7-v05vVh9qP3wfk3-eg=

I dont know if it is even viable, but its got a shitload of es and we are in the es meta. It focuses more an attack speed, as we get a ton of it from tree. It also has zo so we take advantage of the life regen nodes we must take for pathing.


Yes, it's certainly possible. You'll have to find a way to deal with freeze and you'll lose a good chunk of AOE. I tried a hybrid version last month, and came to the conclusion that it's just not as good without a reliable way to regen both ES and Life.

What is your total ES with that tree? I'm hoping that they buff life soon, so I'm hesitant to invest heavily in ES gear.


Im at work now so i don't know the total amount, but its probably pretty low, I think i should just wait on life buffs. I don't have leg Kaom's on standard so I"m sitting at 5.5k life. There are just certain things that I know if I had 10k es, I could tank. I'm used to my wander with that much es, so its a bit hard to adjust. Here's hoping Kaom's gets un-nerfed.
hey, i see you understand the mechanic of the retch, and i thought of something:
i thought about using whritihng jar with worms, and do to a worm huge single target dmg with slayer endless hunger. effect youll gain alot of overkill leech, than that leech do chaos aoe (?) around you based on 200% of the leech you have right?
will that work?
what do you think?
my builds:
- COLB (Cast On Last Breath) first ever build: https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1632595
- the Flash: https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1367774
- the oro's bridle build: https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1409823
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The_x_ile wrote:
hey, i see you understand the mechanic of the retch, and i thought of something:
i thought about using whritihng jar with worms, and do to a worm huge single target dmg with slayer endless hunger. effect youll gain alot of overkill leech, than that leech do chaos aoe (?) around you based on 200% of the leech you have right?
will that work?
what do you think?


That's not how The Retch works. It doesn't generate a new aoe attack around you, it simply adds that 200% chaos damage to the same attack that leeched life.
The Endless Retch: https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1655814
did getting the 2nd curse increase your dps by alot on bosses to the point where on the guardians you arent needing to port out anymore, just trying to figure out how much dps it added. the +1 curse daresso is a big investment
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gm08872 wrote:
did getting the 2nd curse increase your dps by alot on bosses to the point where on the guardians you arent needing to port out anymore, just trying to figure out how much dps it added. the +1 curse daresso is a big investment

i am playing the almost exact same build with like 5% difference in dps, yellow map gaurdians require a port or 2, and white/blue gaurdians require no ports most of the time. Conductivity is a huge dps increase from previous iterations, I would say invest in 5 points for dual curse on tree and then work your way to +1 curse Daresso, but +1 curse daresso nets you a shitload of life or dps if you want it.

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