How do Ascendancy Buffs work/stack?

So, basically, if I have the Elementalist Node that doubles Golem Buffs, will that work specifically on me, or is it a 100% aura effect node for the golems that works on, say, other golems?

Will the Speed and damage boost from active auras supplied by necromancer stack, or is it only for the first? And is that a buff, or just a nondescript bonus like Elemental Overload?
If I get the node that grants physical damage reduction for every active zombie, is that a buff on me, or coming from the Zombies, aka, how would it work with Ichimonji?
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UnDeaD_CyBorG wrote:

Will the Speed and damage boost from active auras supplied by necromancer stack, or is it only for the first? And is that a buff, or just a nondescript bonus like Elemental Overload?


Necromancer's Commander of Darkness adds a stat boost to each aura, which stacks with the same boost on other auras.

(This is also why it won't work with Blasphemy; Blasphemy auras can only affect enemies, not allies, and it would not make sense to buff the enemy, so it just doesn't do anything with Blasphemy)
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What counts as a 'buff' for Ichimonji is not well defined, but mostly you can tell by checking the list of buffs at the top of the screen. Most of those things are buffs, and most buffs show up there.

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UnDeaD_CyBorG wrote:
So, basically, if I have the Elementalist Node that doubles Golem Buffs, will that work specifically on me, or is it a 100% aura effect node for the golems that works on, say, other golems?

Only on you. Golem buffs only work on you anyway.

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Will the Speed and damage boost from active auras supplied by necromancer stack, or is it only for the first? And is that a buff, or just a nondescript bonus like Elemental Overload?

Yes they will stack. They add that boost to each aura, so it's like the aura gave those bonuses too.

Elemental Overload is a buff afaik.

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If I get the node that grants physical damage reduction for every active zombie, is that a buff on me, or coming from the Zombies, aka, how would it work with Ichimonji?

It is coming from you, but I don't think it counts as a buff.
Face it, all of your suggestions are worse than this idea:
http://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/657756
Well, elemental Overload doesn't have the green border that is normally associated with buffs, so I assumed it would not be a buff.
If it is, that might change my build plan a little, as mantra of flames is a given with aura spam.
For reference:
Example Build Plan
Overload-Plan
Thanks for the answers so far! Anyone know about Overload with certainty?

Oh, two more: 1. I assume that, if the necro aura boost is indeed an aura effect, it will be affected by "increased aura effect" passives?
2. If the Golems Auras aren't actually auras, will I still receive the buff of having a golem when I can't benefit from allied auras?
Thanks in advance!
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Last edited by UnDeaD_CyBorG#7056 on Apr 21, 2016, 7:44:38 AM
The person in this thread here:
https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1651721
Said that Elemental Overload was a buff, I haven't tested it myself though.

Just tested Ichimonji in game though and I still get Ice Golem buff (Shows up in your list, and changes crit chance in the character screen). I assume it works the same for other golems too.
Face it, all of your suggestions are worse than this idea:
http://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/657756
Last edited by dudiobugtron#4663 on Apr 21, 2016, 8:42:24 AM
Hmm. Guess I'll have to test it somehow.
Thanks so far.
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dudiobugtron wrote:
What counts as a 'buff' for Ichimonji is not well defined, but mostly you can tell by checking the list of buffs at the top of the screen. Most of those things are buffs, and most buffs show up there.
Buffs have a green border at the top left of your screen. If the border is green it's a buff, and affected by Ichimonji, no exceptions. It's pretty clear I'd say.
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Last edited by Mokihiki#2900 on Apr 21, 2016, 3:24:11 PM
That's what I thought. I wasn't quite sure on the Ascendancy stuff, but it looks like they kept their consistency.
In which case, Overload is no buff.
It's kinda sad Shapers Seep doesn't work.
Edit: Consecrated Ground from Flasks does indeed work, a nice synergy with the flask itself.
Still probably a questionable choice if choosing Vaal Pact.
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