[2.5] Culler-Support-Tank - Full MF | +12k ES | 7 Auras + Animate guardian

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Willy94inh wrote:

Can u update the guardian tree in "Choosing your ascendancy in 2.3" for 2.4? or is the same tree as "Endgame tree" ? thx

Same tree

can you fix the 2 last tree , can't open the page. Thanks

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Winny_The_Pou wrote:

can you fix the 2 last tree , can't open the page. Thanks

Which trees are you talking about? I tried and both core and endgame trees work for me. Maybe try with another explorer?

Jesus such a textwall and no real char to take a look at.... only theoretical thoughts about all in one.
I checked your chars - no mf culler there. And I think combining tank+aurabot+mf culler is bad idea. I am looking for good guide for supporter party only full mf culler. Auramancer build known very well in other thread.
And when I am speaking about full mf I mean it really:


All defences must be provided by auramancer, and main damage must be dealed by DD tank. I only need to cull stuff.

So if u have real skill tree for totem culler pls update it in your OP

They aren't only theoretical thoughts. I've played different versions of that build for ~2 years (if you had read such a textwall, you would have known that). The patches since I stopped playing it barely brought any changes, so I'm keeping the guide updated.

I don't think that the ultimate culler should run around with 25% MS penalty, and have... ¿2500 hp?
What I think is that culler-support-tank is a perfect combination. If you don't, this guide isn't for you, plain and simple.

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You can start in a new league yep. But, with current clearspeed and limited access to quantity I think pure support (necro or guardian) is more enjoyable though. There is a link to my other guide at the end of this one.

As for how, it is always a pain.
If you already have a group of friends, supporting since the very beginning is best imo. Run haste/hatred/anger/clarity depending on what your friends need the most, any spell that scales good without investment and totems to distract/group monsters.
For tree, get aura nodes as offense and hp/es as defence.

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dulahan200 wrote:

You can start in a new league yep. But, with current clearspeed and limited access to quantity I think pure support (necro or guardian) is more enjoyable though. There is a link to my other guide at the end of this one.

As for how, it is always a pain.
If you already have a group of friends, supporting since the very beginning is best imo. Run haste/hatred/anger/clarity depending on what your friends need the most, any spell that scales good without investment and totems to distract/group monsters.
For tree, get aura nodes as offense and hp/es as defence.

You mean by the difficult to get culls? I've tested the build without legacy items on sc with my friends and i found quite hard to get the culling strike going, unless on map bosses or beyond uniques, but it still seems somehow profitable to me, especially on double beyond mod maps, we didnt tested it alot but i managed to make 2 chaos/regal almost every single map, and since culling wasnt 100% reliable i was running the build with alpha's, besides that my main concern was on how to get a decent ES pool wearing a Lorica's and all these uniques, i felt way to much squishy, i didnt had optmized gear tho, it was a mix of my old characters, anyway thanks for the reply!

No changes in 2.5

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FeFFoM wrote:

You mean by the difficult to get culls?

Yep, even trash builds have too much dps nowadays.

Hello there,

I must be missing something major here... Why get blood magic at all? Wouldn't it be better to use your mana pool for auras and then your HP pool for more auras. Is blood magic mana reserved reductions more efficient, since you are doing it that way?