SET FREE THE ASCENDANCY POINTS (or rework the lab) [New ascension methods/lab rework ideas]

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k1rage wrote:

Let my ascendancy points go!

Nice... The playerbase has parted. At least we can now cross over to another game.

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The_Reporter wrote:

It is 'bad faith' to not read past the thread title to extract the full meaning.

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I understand GGG has put a lot of effort on the expansion and what im asking is too much, but ascendancy points should be freed from the labyrinth's tyranny.

Those who like the labyrinth itself wont lose anything and even if they feel they do GGG can compansate them with extra loots or better enchantment system.

Those who dont like the labyrinth finally are free to mess around with the only thing that is worth messing in this expansion, the Ascendancy classes.

So no change of playstyle for neither "lovers" nor "haters" , while as it is now the "haters" get the shaft for not supporting GGG idea and design of a different playstyle.


FREE ASCENDANCY POINTS, make PoE a better place.

^ was the original OP. Combine that with the original title and there is no bad faith involved in interpreting it as 'something for nothing' especially with most (at the time) suggesting the AC points should be put behind Malachi.

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Pyrokar wrote:

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k1rage wrote:

Let my ascendancy points go!

Nice... The playerbase has parted. At least we can now cross over to another game.

To quote Nessa... "Bye."

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Shovelcut wrote:

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The_Reporter wrote:

It is 'bad faith' to not read past the thread title to extract the full meaning.

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I understand GGG has put a lot of effort on the expansion and what im asking is too much, but ascendancy points should be freed from the labyrinth's tyranny.

Those who like the labyrinth itself wont lose anything and even if they feel they do GGG can compansate them with extra loots or better enchantment system.

Those who dont like the labyrinth finally are free to mess around with the only thing that is worth messing in this expansion, the Ascendancy classes.

So no change of playstyle for neither "lovers" nor "haters" , while as it is now the "haters" get the shaft for not supporting GGG idea and design of a different playstyle.


FREE ASCENDANCY POINTS, make PoE a better place.

^ was the original OP. Combine that with the original title and there is no bad faith involved in interpreting it as 'something for nothing' especially with most (at the time) suggesting the AC points should be put behind Malachi.

I vote for Shovelcut winning 99 bonus points for the week for doing the research to find this out.

That includes 1 point off the maximum because the link wasn't provided.
https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1609216/page/5#p12985267

Good job!

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edit:

Looking through the first few pages I found this gem.

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sidtherat wrote:

what is stopping them? maybe this that 99% of the playerbase moved on and does not care about this small, localised riot done by 5 guys (literally five of you)

and.. Rigwald was gated behind extreme grind. ive skipped entire league because of that because i consider that bs from gameplay perspective

but you know what? i wasnt crying my tears for weeks on forum. esp when your 'mutiny' is so out of proportion that it looks comical. youve spend hours arguing here complaining that it takes minutes to complete the lab and you refuse to do it because you refuse to do it.

pretty.. well.. questionable time management

The first place where sidtherat used his 5 guys number. This was before I decided to voice my opinion but sidtherat never updated it to 6 guys. It stayed 5 guys for many months. :-)

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Xavathos wrote:

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Pyrokar wrote:

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k1rage wrote:

Let my ascendancy points go!

Nice... The playerbase has parted. At least we can now cross over to another game.

To quote Nessa... "Bye."

To quote the old hc players' customs... "Take care, don't die"

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Turtledove wrote:

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Shovelcut wrote:

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The_Reporter wrote:

It is 'bad faith' to not read past the thread title to extract the full meaning.

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I understand GGG has put a lot of effort on the expansion and what im asking is too much, but ascendancy points should be freed from the labyrinth's tyranny.

Those who like the labyrinth itself wont lose anything and even if they feel they do GGG can compansate them with extra loots or better enchantment system.

Those who dont like the labyrinth finally are free to mess around with the only thing that is worth messing in this expansion, the Ascendancy classes.

So no change of playstyle for neither "lovers" nor "haters" , while as it is now the "haters" get the shaft for not supporting GGG idea and design of a different playstyle.


FREE ASCENDANCY POINTS, make PoE a better place.

^ was the original OP. Combine that with the original title and there is no bad faith involved in interpreting it as 'something for nothing' especially with most (at the time) suggesting the AC points should be put behind Malachi.

I vote for Shovelcut winning 99 bonus points for the week for doing the research to find this out.

That includes 1 point off the maximum because the link wasn't provided.
https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1609216/page/5#p12985267

Good job!

Ah, you found the quote on page 5, but you didn't find the quote where he even tells the original title.

https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1609216/page/142#p13387025

I'll take that 1 point now. :)

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Shovelcut wrote:

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Turtledove wrote:

I vote for Shovelcut winning 99 bonus points for the week for doing the research to find this out.

That includes 1 point off the maximum because the link wasn't provided.
https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1609216/page/5#p12985267

Good job!

Ah, you found the quote on page 5, but you didn't find the quote where he even tells the original title.

https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1609216/page/142#p13387025

I'll take that 1 point now. :)

This should be a new incident, therefore I vote for an additional bonus, this one at the maximum 100 bonus. Especially because it's on page 142!

@Shovelcut

Nice research chops, man.

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Phrazz wrote:

And when the lab is so fun, interesting and rewarding and not to mention good designed ARPG content, why is 9 areas "a bit much"?

This is the key question.

It's presented ironically, but the point is obvious enough.

How can GGG make the Labyrinth more interesting and fun, without spending shitloads of money/time creating additional assets?

I'm pretty sure this is something all but the most negative of us can get behind.

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gibbousmoon wrote:

@Shovelcut

Nice research chops, man.

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Phrazz wrote:

And when the lab is so fun, interesting and rewarding and not to mention good designed ARPG content, why is 9 areas "a bit much"?

This is the key question.

It's presented ironically, but the point is obvious enough.

How can GGG make the Labyrinth more interesting and fun, without spending shitloads of money/time creating additional assets?

I'm pretty sure this is something all but the most negative of us can get behind.

First answer. By removing traps.
Second answer. Doesn"t really help the lab situation but they could remove early labs and put their points on bosses they develop. But since 3.0 is around the corner and we got the pantheon system instead, my inner frieze is trembling.

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gibbousmoon wrote:

How can GGG make the Labyrinth more interesting and fun, without spending shitloads of money/time creating additional assets?

As I see it, by removing a portion of what makes the lab an irritating place, while adding some elements as to why we play this genre.

What can possibly that be, you ask? Well, here we go:

Backtracking...
...is "universally" disliked. While it IS a labyrinth, one possibility could be more than one exit that leads to the next segment, a part from the occasionally secret ones. OF course, you could just "read up" on third party sites, that will tell you where to go. But what is the point of the lab then?

Traps...
...Aren't fair. You build your character from scratch, takes a lot of choices regarding defenses, just to have the traps ignoring a lot of those choices. This CAN be tweaked, by letting evasion, dodge, block etc. have some kind of impact on them.

Boss encounters...
...Are one of the main reasons we play games like these. Remove some traps, and have an extra boss or two in there.

Add more options...
...To "change up" your run. Prophecies letting you create one portal? More prophecies adding monsters? Create more "personalizing".

More random...
...Stuff, to TRY and make each run interesting. Monsters "breaking out" from the walls, treasure hunts, fragments - by collecting all, you activate a treasure. More FUZZ!

There are tons of things that could be done by some tweaks. But as long as "GGG have better and more important things to spend their resources on" is the bottom line, well...