Would there be a downside to putting an auction house in at this point?

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13elial wrote:

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I think your problem is way beyond not having an AH. You just seem to lack experience and to stop having to put effort into learning the art of trading in PoE you rather just take an easy shot and implement an AH, wich btw woulc do nothing to solve the problems you have.

Flipping in PoE is a service rather then a 'scam'. And prices of currency is pretty steady to begin with, even in leagues. The only price people have to follow is exalts. And that takes about 2 seconds to determine what the current rate is.

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13elial wrote:

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If you think the currency system is abhorrent, I hearby nullify all the extra authority you have yourself by placing "wrong" in caps.

I like the concept of the currency, and think its fantastic in use (albeit slightly too rare in some cases). Unfortunately (and this seems to be a point noone responds to), the value associated with the different currencies fluctuates so much that its impossible for people who don't play all the time to not get ripped off via trading. I happen to play a lot, and have tried to get people to join the game. Unfortunately the game is too complicated in some aspects.

I think statements like this is why none of your arguments resonate with me. If you aren't playing a lot, then why are you getting involved in currency trading? I do play a lot. But I never sell currency. And I rarely buy currency. I think the last time I bought any currency was when I was buying fusings before Forsaken Masters. So to me it looks like you try to make arguments based on bogus premises. A player who doesn't play much is just not going to be in the currency trading market. They won't have any to sell and they won't have the currency needed to buy. Plus, it's really easy to not get ripped off. Look at the message board. In some parties you'll see WTS exalts for 85 chaos and in other parties you'll see WTB 80 chaos for an exalt. Anybody with half a brain can see that the actual value is between and the negotiated exchange will only depend on how much people want to make a deal. If they're stubborn they may have to wait a while. If they are agreeable to coming up or down slightly they'll make quick trades.

So, stop trying to pretend you are arguing to help poor defenseless noobs and just say you're arguing because you want what you want. The noobs can speak for themselves. And the ones I've met would not like people thinking they are as helpless as you say.

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Would there be a downside to putting an auction house in at this point?

Yes, we would have to miss out on these wonderfull threads in GD.

Say No to an auction-house and preserve GD!

Peace,

-Boem-

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Boem wrote:

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Would there be a downside to putting an auction house in at this point?

Yes, we would have to miss out on these wonderfull threads in GD.

Say No to an auction-house and preserve GD!

Peace,

-Boem-

That plus we know the bad history of D3 AH and the ensuing flame wars in the D3 forum. The solution for GGG is asynchronous trade via a personal Trade Stash in our hideout. With this we get to buy without having to hunt down the seller, have an easy place from which to sell items, get to see other players hideouts and how it's decorated (or not), and it is not a global AH with a 1-click instant buy to make flipping fast and cause run away inflation.

The forum threads about the persistent (and always) bad Trade Chat and what it should be replaced by are many and seem to gravitate to an AH. Since that will never happen here (a very good thing) then the talk should center somewhere along my (most excellent) idea of how GGG should go about implementing asynchronous trade function. Doing nothing is not the answer.

@Arrowneous:
You already know that GGG has considered your idea and rejected it. Give up already.

There's a big difference, auction houses are automated, whereas the current system has to be managed by a human. The shop needing to be managed by a human is an extremely important detail which shouldn't be discarded offhand in favor of 'why not'.

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AH = path of flipping

typical player, who just needs to sell best finds to buy items he needs, doesnt need an AH. poe.trade works perfectly fine

who would benefit the most:

* flippers, RMTers..
* <0.1% of top players who need to trade to keep high maps running, or for high-end crafting