How do I block someone on poetrade

XYZ owns poe.trade - The site is not affiliated with GGG and the owner/producer of the site can whatever he pleases as long as GGG is deadset on using the API for trading. Theres is nothing stopping XYZ from not allowing anybody to post/search items. I mean he could make it private today and wouldnt be able to do shit about it.

E: Like stated before the way around this mess is for GGG to create their own trading system. But until then the power lies with the people capable of using said API.

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k1rage wrote:

Get a good shield and take lots of block nodes

lol.

I much much much prefer a regulated site with the potential for abuse over a not regulated site. Should it happen, that abuse is starting or going on or whatever, and it deals too much damage (im willing to accept a bit damage, like some false blackslists) to too many people, im sure after a while with protests on reddit or whereever, the abuse will either decrease, or some other indexer will pop up. In the meantime damage was done, again, I prefer that possibility over no regulation.

And I want to pose a question as a counter to other questions that were posed here: What happens if xyz does NOT abuse his powers ??? What if he does NOT decide to blacklist me or most everyone else for no reason ??? What happens if he only blacklists people (small errors aside) that misuse the programm by standards that 99% of the users agree on ???

Of course an ingame system managed by GGG would be better though, no doubt about that.

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grant_m wrote:

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I_NO wrote:

Too bad XYZ can do whatever he wants, He owns the site end of story.

One person having the ability to control the PoE economies, or pick and choose who can is not a great thing.

Suppose for a minute that you, being highly active in trade, fell out of personal favour with xyz? Suppose he had a friend, or group of friends who decided that you should be blacklisted?

What then?

Not having moderation of his own site is not a great thing.

And he isn't/doesn't "control" the poe economy just because he runs a search db.

There's always trade chat. Oh, what's that? Trade chat is useless because of spam? Man if only it was moderated with less spam and actually useful... I rest my case.

He shouldn't be blacklisting anyone at all unless it's someone actually abusing his website (listing things in a specific way is absolutely NOT abusing his site nor is it against any trade rules or ToS). If there is a trader doing something against the ToS/trade rules it should be reported to and dealt with by GGG since everything is listed on their site. poe.trade is an indexer after all, it shouldn't be deciding who can and can't trade. It's function should be limited to indexing. Period.

And he wants to accuse people of market manipulation...the irony.

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Shovelcut wrote:

He shouldn't be blacklisting anyone at all

Says who? Just like GGG "condones" (as some keep pointing out) deceptive trading practices, they also must "condone" blacklisting. Apparently not banning for something is proof that GGG wants that thing to be a player's choice. At least according to grant_m's arguments in another thread about deceiving sellers about what they set their buyout prices. GGG allows anybody to make indexers and set no rules against blacklisting people. By default that means they accept it.

I still haven't seen a counter argument to just using or making an indexer that plays by whatever rules conincide with your personal values. And the argument about blacklisting market manipulators as manipulating the market themselves is illogical. Is it market manipulation when the government says insider trading is illegal?

Where I come from, businesses are allowed to refuse service to customers that they don't want to do business with. If they won't let me be a customer if I walk into their business with no shirt or shoes, why should they be forced to? Xyz can refuse service to anybody he wants.

Read the rest of that sentence that you quoted...

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And the argument about blacklisting market manipulators as manipulating the market themselves is illogical.

He's controlling who can and can't be indexed on a whim, how is that not manipulation? He had no reason at all to blacklist the player in that link I provided.

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Shovelcut wrote:

He shouldn't be blacklisting anyone at all unless it's someone actually abusing his website (listing things in a specific way is absolutely NOT abusing his site nor is it against any trade rules or ToS). If there is a trader doing something against the ToS/trade rules it should be reported to and dealt with by GGG since everything is listed on their site. poe.trade is an indexer after all, it shouldn't be deciding who can and can't trade. It's function should be limited to indexing. Period.

And he wants to accuse people of market manipulation...the irony.

its his site and indexer he can black list anyone he likes

External trade sites can be abused. Shocker. What else is new?

As long as GGG doesn't introduce their own trade system, people running stuff can do whatever they want. Including aquisition, procurement and everything else.

xyz can blacklist, deny access manipulate whatever he wants, because it's an external site. There's NOTHING GGG could do about that. Aside from....you know get their own system up and running.

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k1rage wrote:

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Shovelcut wrote:

He shouldn't be blacklisting anyone at all unless it's someone actually abusing his website (listing things in a specific way is absolutely NOT abusing his site nor is it against any trade rules or ToS). If there is a trader doing something against the ToS/trade rules it should be reported to and dealt with by GGG since everything is listed on their site. poe.trade is an indexer after all, it shouldn't be deciding who can and can't trade. It's function should be limited to indexing. Period.

And he wants to accuse people of market manipulation...the irony.

its his site and indexer he can black list anyone he likes

Jesus christ can someone please change the record, it's skipping badly. (seriously, it's been repeated atleast 7 times in 4 pages so I think we all get that.)

Either way, it doesn't affect me in the least since I don't buy/sell shit anyway. Just wanted to share my thoughts on the whole debacle. The rest of you can continue looking the other way. Business as usual so long as it doesn't affect you...