Why is a better way to trade that difficult?

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goetzjam wrote:

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400 PDPS Harbingers go for alot more then 10 exalts on Talisman HC and good 6 Links go for more than 10.


This whole emphasis on trade/hardcore/etc. is the single reason why the RMT economy is thriving and why botting, maphacking, and other sorts of things are quite popular among many top players.


And if you don't think cheating among top players isn't prevalent, well, do realize that there's a reason why some people didn't stream when they were competing for prizes.

What the hell does crit bows have to do with anything, good rolled bows have always been expensive, in terms of more then 10ex for a good rolled 6 link, you can just buy the high ilevel cards and craft a bow if you want. Regardless thats 1 weapon type, among the many different playstyles in PoE that seems to be "expensive". I don't think people that have issues with trading are looking at making a build that requires that much wealth.

The whole reason of making the game the way it is wasn't to appeal to the masses, it was to appeal to a more niche market and playerbase. In terms of RMT, its been there since day 1 of open beta, especially for people that play in the perm leagues, because money invested then nets better items to play with. In terms of maphacking, they have made improvements to that and almost all races now are revealed\fixed to make that less of an issue. In terms of botting, they do get banned from time to time, its something that GGG can only attempt to really combat, but its a F2P game so anyone can create accounts to try and bot with. "other sort of things"

I don't understand your fascination with RMT in a game like this, it happens across the board for any game that requires grind, someone's real life time is always worth more then money it takes to simply bypass the time and play the powerful builds.

Cheating\RMT is going to happen in any game like this, GGG can only combat it with whatever steps they putforth, they however cannot stop it completely without removing key elements of the game. If there was no trading at all and everything was account bound like in D3, then RMT in terms of items wouldn't be an issue, however even then people STILL botted and likely still do in D3 simply to grind rifts for keys or XP. Unless your suggesting that PoE move to an account bound style loot system, which I don't think you are I don't understand your points here.

In terms of people not streaming when going for things, when 2.0 hit and GGG had a prize for first merciless malachai kill, the guy that won in HC was streaming.

In terms of ladder\cheating, what does this ultimately have to do with trading in PoE, as far as I'm concerned it has a relatively low effect on my gameplay and builds, currently and in the past, perhaps you can go into more detail on how its relevant to this discussion and less about ranting that others, cheating or not have more then you do.

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allbusiness wrote:

A. I like how you have a moving goal post argument about how not all items are more than 10 exalts and then you back track and say good 6 links and good crit bows suddenly cost more. Nice job. Also, nicely rolled daggers, wands, and upper end 2H/1H weapons will cost you far more than 10 exalts on Talisman HC, as well as a few other good rolled armors that are 6 linked. This idea that everything is dirt cheap in temp leagues is preposterous.

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In terms of interacting with a stash, I like it, in terms of automation, I don't. However, I think if implemented properly could help address some concerns people have with trade, but I still have to ask why the hell people think trading is so bad when almost any item in the game is under 10ex in temp leagues. A few more niche uniques are more.

B. The trade focus economy heavily encourages RMTing/cheating. You take away the trade focus and people stop cheating. Simple as that. There's botting that goes on in D3, sure, but not to the same extent as Path of Exile where it is far more lucrative to do so.

C. RMTing is actually far more rampant in temporary leagues than standard leagues, may want to do actual research first.

D. RMTing and botting heavily affect the economy, do the math.

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allbusiness wrote:

Mmmmm yeah you actually don't even know how rampant cheating is.
Hint : Havoc didn't stream Invasion for a reason.

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mark1030 wrote:

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allbusiness wrote:

Mmmmm yeah you actually don't even know how rampant cheating is.
Hint : Havoc didn't stream Invasion for a reason.

You sure seem to know a lot about cheating. And I haven't seen you streaming. So the only possible conclusion is that you are one of the rampant cheaters.