Donald Trump

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Snorkle_uk wrote:

do you believe in this?

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If a man lies with a male as with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination; they shall surely be put to death; their blood is upon them

The Western world, which is built on Christianity, slowly dumped or upgraded all these obsolete ideas (mostly from the old testament), while still keeping the morals & ethics that stem from religion / spirituality.

A society which completely dumped religion & spirituality was already tried and failed miserably - it caused more deaths and destruction than any religion ever has.

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morbo wrote:

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Snorkle_uk wrote:

do you believe in this?

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If a man lies with a male as with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination; they shall surely be put to death; their blood is upon them

The Western world, which is built on Christianity, slowly dumped or upgraded all these obsolete ideas (mostly from the old testament), while still keeping the morals & ethics that stem from religion / spirituality.

A society which completely dumped religion & spirituality was already tried and failed miserably - it caused more deaths and destruction than any religion ever has.

lol the classic "atheists don't have a moral code and they dumpstered themselves" argument.

of course it failed miserably - it was in tandem with an administration that tried to control the thoughts and behaviours of a people who could willingly defy them.

because honestly, if religion to you is not-being-a-fucking-asshole-but-only-because-the-man-in-the-sky-told-me-not-to, then i'm terribly sorry to tell you that most human beings have the decency to be nice people regardless of "divine judgment."

actually i went and took a gander at your post history. i regret i even started this conversation now.

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Juicebox360 wrote:

if religion to you is not-being-a-fucking-asshole-but-only-because-the-man-in-the-sky-told-me-not-to, then i'm terribly sorry to tell you that most human beings have the decency to be nice people regardless of "divine judgment."

No, that's what leftists think religion is. Most non-religious people are nice because of rule of law (= "earthly judgment"), if you remove that, society would start to crumble and leftists would be at the forefront of the killing spree. Just look at those radical leftists destroying your heigborhood, because they don't like the election outcome.

It's a sad fact, that "collectivist atheism" has killed the most people so far, directly and indirectly. And it only ravaged the planet for about 100 years. Imagine if it would last for thousands of years, like religions. Collectivist atheism lacks moral brakes & shifts personal responsibility on the collective, that's why godless commies were the biggest mass murderers in history and they have nothing to show for it. I'd sooner hang out with religious people, even tho I'm agnostic.

Wow, I come back to this thread a day later and it has devolved into philosophical discussions about our existence, obscure scientific theories, and some class taught at Rutgers featuring Beyonce as its teaching model. Thanks Internet for keeping true to your mantra.

On a more thread-related note...

http://www.cnbc.com/2016/11/17/us-markets.html

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The U.S. stock market has enjoyed a sharp rally after the U.S. election, with Trump's surprising victory over Hillary Clinton raising the prospects of higher infrastructure spending as well as financial deregulation. Since Nov. 9, the SPDR S&P Bank ETF (KBE) has risen around 10 percent entering Thursday.

Wow this thread took all kinds of crazy turns. Well I need a place to vent about DJT so i'm just going to leave it here.

The Republican party, who initially turned their back on DJT, are now running back to him. Why, my stupid fellow Americans, do you think that is? The dumbasses that actually think he's going to help lower-income, non-formally-educated workers are delusional. Drain the swamp? Yes...as he places the swampiest of fucks in his cabinet.

Here is my prediction for the next 4 years:

1) DJT puts a bunch of capitalists in his cabinet. People that blur the lines of company men and political men.

2) Give huge tax credits to the extremely rich. Pray for trickle down economics.

3) Economic trickle down fails. Taxes go down, but national debt is nearly doubled in 4 years.

4) Frustrated, idiot American public vote in another "change election" in 4 years to put another democrat in power. (But stupidly vote for the same people in the House and Senate... i.e. "vote all democrat/republican" option on ballet.)


5) Democratic party now has huge amounts of debt that they have to climb out of. Idiots blame democrats for huge debt.

6) Repeat.


American voters are so uneducated and stupid it hurts my soul. People wanted to end corruption and "drain the swamp" so a large percentage of senate, house, and local government officials retained their offices. wut? Most Americans blame the PRESIDENT for all of their fucking problems...not that there are hundreds of people in government other than the president that suck fucking ass?!?!??!

America fucked up big time...we just don't see it yet. Having a person that believes climate change is a Chinese hoax as president is ridiculous. Having a president that thinks giving tax cuts to multi-billion dollar companies somehow encourages them to employ more Americans is idiotic. Having a president that appoints alt-right bigots to office is un-american. Having a president that is publicly calling out and lambasting specific people on twitter is fucking embarrassing. If Kim Jung Un had a retarded half-brother, it would be Donald Trump.

It's almost sad that you can take any joke made about a North Korean dictator and replace it with "President of the United States" and now have the joke make complete sense. What the ACTUAL FUCK?!

In wanting change, Americans have put many of the foundations we value AT RISK... and they are too fucking stupid to see it.

For fucks sake, FAKE NEWS on Facebook swayed election votes!!!! Idiots that believed bullshit stories...sharing them on facebook and presenting them as fact so their equally stupid friends could propagate it: echo chambers of pure, unadulterated idiocy.

Here is what one fake news writer for Facebook had to say about the American people and how easy it is to dupe these people:

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Honestly, people are definitely dumber. They just keep passing stuff around. Nobody fact-checks anything anymore — I mean, that’s how Trump got elected. He just said whatever he wanted, and people believed everything, and when the things he said turned out not to be true, people didn’t care because they’d already accepted it. It’s real scary. I’ve never seen anything like it...

My sites were picked up by Trump supporters all the time. I think Trump is in the White House because of me. His followers don’t fact-check anything — they’ll post everything, believe anything. His campaign manager posted my story about a protester getting paid $3,500 as fact. Like, I made that up. I posted a fake ad on Craigslist.

Wake up middle-America. The world is changing. There is no place for single-talent union workers. EDUCATE YOURSELF. LEARN TO ADAPT. LEARN MORE TRADES. You want to "shake up the system"? Boycott your FAILED SHITFUCK UNIONS that take your fees but fail to educate you in a changing world and economy.

WTF do you think driver automation is going to do to workers in this country? How about drones doing daily jobs that "real" people used to have? Drones are being created to deliver FUCKING PIZZAS in this country. Drones/robots are being created to GET RID OF YOU MIDDLE AMERICA. STOP BEING LAZY AND LEARN NEW SKILLS. The world is more like to discriminate against you if your are DUMB...not if you are white, black, or purple!

....whew...okay...whoooosaaaahh...breathe...

okay that felt good, now I can go back to bitching about channeling skills.

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Juicebox360 wrote:

lol the classic "atheists don't have a moral code and they dumpstered themselves" argument.

Back on topic - it's being reported that protestors have stormed the building that Trump's transition team is meeting at.

http://vesselnews.io/protesters-storm-building-donald-trumps-transition-team-based/

It's been said that we should create a new 'safe space net' that authorities can use like the dog-catchers of old. These nets will be made out of play-doh, so that the protestors can play their way out of the net and be nice and calm when they're free. That way everyone gets what they want.

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Prisus wrote:

For fucks sake, FAKE NEWS on Facebook swayed election votes!!!! Idiots that believed bullshit stories...sharing them on facebook and presenting them as fact so their equally stupid friends could propagate it: echo chambers of pure, unadulterated idiocy.

Here is what one fake news writer for Facebook had to say about the American people and how easy it is to dupe these people:

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Honestly, people are definitely dumber. They just keep passing stuff around. Nobody fact-checks anything anymore — I mean, that’s how Trump got elected. He just said whatever he wanted, and people believed everything, and when the things he said turned out not to be true, people didn’t care because they’d already accepted it. It’s real scary. I’ve never seen anything like it...

My sites were picked up by Trump supporters all the time. I think Trump is in the White House because of me. His followers don’t fact-check anything — they’ll post everything, believe anything. His campaign manager posted my story about a protester getting paid $3,500 as fact. Like, I made that up. I posted a fake ad on Craigslist.

I actually remember that story. I was able to find - on my own - ads hiring protestors for $1,500, so I remember seeing the higher figure and thinking to myself "either typo or exaggeration." Exaggeration, it turns out.

The fake news is mostly mainstream. The polls were biased, sampled assuming a 2012 Democratic turnout. Bannon is neither racist nor an anti-Semite. Trump doesn't threaten the LGBTQ+ or black communities. I dare you to find primary evidence disproving any of these claims.

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ScrotieMcB wrote:

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Prisus wrote:

For fucks sake, FAKE NEWS on Facebook swayed election votes!!!! Idiots that believed bullshit stories...sharing them on facebook and presenting them as fact so their equally stupid friends could propagate it: echo chambers of pure, unadulterated idiocy.

Here is what one fake news writer for Facebook had to say about the American people and how easy it is to dupe these people:

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Honestly, people are definitely dumber. They just keep passing stuff around. Nobody fact-checks anything anymore — I mean, that’s how Trump got elected. He just said whatever he wanted, and people believed everything, and when the things he said turned out not to be true, people didn’t care because they’d already accepted it. It’s real scary. I’ve never seen anything like it...

My sites were picked up by Trump supporters all the time. I think Trump is in the White House because of me. His followers don’t fact-check anything — they’ll post everything, believe anything. His campaign manager posted my story about a protester getting paid $3,500 as fact. Like, I made that up. I posted a fake ad on Craigslist.

I actually remember that story. I was able to find - on my own - ads hiring protestors for $1,500, so I remember seeing the higher figure and thinking to myself "either typo or exaggeration." Exaggeration, it turns out.

The fake news is mostly mainstream. The polls were biased, sampled assuming a 2012 Democratic turnout. Bannon is neither racist nor an anti-Semite. Trump doesn't threaten the LGBTQ+ or black communities. I dare you to find primary evidence disproving any of these claims.

Yes because, you finding $1500 postings means that those aren't trolls like this guy that made the shit up. Americans are as daft as this guy claims they are lol. Find me one example where a person was paid to riot/incite violence on either side of the campaign pls. --> PROVEN...not a link to a Craigslist shit post.

Bannon is a casual racist. He's not out there having lunch with David Duke. He's also not an idiot to post his personal views out there. His wife claimed he said some hateful shit about jewish people, but that also is unfounded as it was the product of people going through a divorce that hate each other. There will be no "proof" and you knew that with your foolish request. There is, however, a history of tongue-in-cheek racism at Breitbart and also a history of comments by Bannon that aren't exactly "unbiased":

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/11/15/us/politics/stephen-bannon-breitbart-words.html

This is a left leaning newspaper that has numerous links to published works during his watch at Brietbart. I know it's left-leaning but he has strong hateful language he uses to talk about people IN HIS OWN WORDS. Calling women [Removed by Support] and using other derogatory terms isn't someone you want in office. Running a newspaper or writing editorials? FINE...he's not helping to run a country...but that level of hateful bias in a position of power is dangerous as fuck.

I'm not saying Trump hates LGBT, blacks, etc...I personally don't believe most of that shit. I do however believe that he has a political agenda to make his businesses and the businesses of his friends MORE FUCKING MONEY. Why would he care about the little guy? Where has trickle down economics ever worked? Climate change is bullshit? The Chinese are coaching an American president on the importance of preserving our planet? Like wtf planet are we on?

I don't think climate change is fake, but I do think there's a lot of bullshit around it. Scientists have a clear, proven track record of greatly exaggerating the threat of climate change for attention, and the people as a whole have fallen into the logical fallacy of averaging out the claims, putting them in a state of mild alarm. Climate change is nowhere near my top ten priorities.

What about the significant evidence against Clinton provided by Wikileaks? Do you think that's fake news?