Lore timeline?

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I_NO wrote:

Voll's a fucking moron literally is basically the plot of the story.

No seriously what a gullible moron. Every single thing that's happening on Wraecrest could of been prevented if this idiot wasn't so obsessed with purifying his so called empire so therefor lets trust Malachai hur durrr.

False. You have Doryani, Atziri and Zerphi first. They destroyed the Vaal Empire.

Voll was a total moron, true, but he was responsible for the second cataclysm. I wonder if it'll be a third one...

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Zephryl wrote:

A little disappointed that it doesn't detail any of the side characters, but still very informative.

The details are out there. Start to read between lines.

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Xenus_Paradox wrote:

Act 4: we find out that Malachai is still alive inside a ginormous monster called the Beast that's trapped inside a mountain. He promised Voll that he was going to go inside of it and use its power to destroy all magic/skill gems (same difference) in order to get Voll's backing in creating the Rapture Device which was designed to tear open the Beast's side. However it needed Dialla to power it and she refused to sacrifice her power and consequently her youth, thus Malachai was only able to poke a tiny hole in the Beast and squeeze inside. He apparently either resurrected or created simulacra of Doedre, Shavronne, and Maligaro within the Beast's guts to guard his organs for some reason (apparently he doesn't need them anymore) and began working on reshaping Wraeclast according to his vision with the Beast's power.

Meanwhile Kaom and Daresso, or some kind of living memories of them, are still kicking around in dream realms. Each one is hanging onto a component of the Rapture Device.

Nice thanks. A few unresolved issues:
1. Seems to be hinted that it was Malachai's plan all along to enter the Beast and claim all the power for himself
2. Not sure what made Dialla change her mind and sacrifice her youth to kill the Beast. Perhaps it was her realisation of Malachai's real plan all along?
3. How did Piety end up in the Beast?

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elitedesolator wrote:

Nice thanks. A few unresolved issues:
1. Seems to be hinted that it was Malachai's plan all along to enter the Beast and claim all the power for himself
2. Not sure what made Dialla change her mind and sacrifice her youth to kill the Beast. Perhaps it was her realisation of Malachai's real plan all along?
3. How did Piety end up in the Beast?

Yeah, definitely was Malachai's driving motivation. I imagine that if it wasn't possible to take the power for himself, he would've attempted to kill The Beast though. He's very much the "Go with the flow and seize as much power as possible" type, and until he'd grabbed The Beast's power, Voll was very much the flow.

That part confuses me, honestly. Dialla says that she was selfish and didn't want to sacrifice her own Gems to fuel the Device, but Malachai's Diary outside of the device seems to hint that he himself rejected her so that he wouldn't have to kill her.

The same way that Shavronne and cohorts went in, I imagine. They were so linked with Gems and Thaumaturgy that Mala-Beast hijacked their souls when they died. Only Kaom and possibly Daresso might gave been able to physically reach the Beast, the other four had confirmed deaths elsewhere.


I'd like to know the workings of that last bit myself though. Can Mala-beast yank anyone to live inside? Can he only use people suitably Thamaturged that still have their minds intact? Lots of possibilities, I think~

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The Vaal civilisation seems to have ended as the result of some internal event rather than external conquest. This event may be the mysterious "communion" the Vaal were seeking before their demise according to Icius Perandus as is written in one of the Golden Pages: "A communion... but with what? By all accounts, it wasn't God that the Vaal were trying to reach."

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On the Golden Page (Siosa's translation, not the flavour text) that mentions this, the words "sleep", "nightmare" and "the Beast" are also mentioned, and that the Vaal have "failed" themselves.

Most likely the Vaal were trying to merge with the Beast, or the Beast was created by the majority of the Vaal civilization merging, flesh and soul, into a single being.

Dialla was definitely manipulated into her refusal to participate. Whether Malachai truly loved her or callously used her is unclear - his notes suggest the former, while everything else we know about him would tend to imply the latter. She seems to have changed her mind either out of spite or because she realizes the threat Malachai poses.

No idea how Piety got inside the Beast, unless it's what Zephryl said.

She was absorbed after being killed by the exile.

The real question here is: can the Beast revive anyone who's sufficiently steeped in thaumaturgy? And can it revive them only inside itself, or can it bring them back anywhere it wants?

Also, was Malachai ever truly in control of the Beast, or was it controlling him?

In other words: when you click "resurrect at checkpoint," is it a mere gameplay conceit or PART OF THE STORY?