Suggestion:Consumable Item as rare as top tier uniques that grant +1 to a stat on a char PERMANENTLY

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mucker wrote:

How about if it gave +1 to one stat but -1 to another? Then you wouldn't have infinite potential but could tune exactly for tree and gear.

Although this is a much more balanced idea, it is worth noting that passives can always be reallocated and gear could always be unequipped, so unless you want negative attributes to be possible you'd have to limit it to the 60 attribute points each class begins with.

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Then people would just stockpile like 9999 str on one character to get infinite life and have effects from regen and leech scaling up towards infinity eventually creating a god mode character and then the game is broken

Please read the whole first post. We brought up the idea of having a limited number of times it could be used. Also as discussed and this consumable would cost between 5-40 ex...it would take an insane player an insane amount of time/luck/skill to amass thousands.

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AntPi1e_ wrote:

Did you read the original post past the first 2 lines?

Yes, I still don't like it.

As for how much it costs, you cannot decide that. How much it costs is decided by the economy. You can make predictions, but you could be vastly off.

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AntPi1e_ wrote:

this consumable would cost between 5-40 ex

Really? How would you ensure that?

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AntPi1e_ wrote:

it would take an insane player an insane amount of time/luck/skill to amass thousands.

Oh, you mean like amassing 72 Mirrors in 39 days? That is very conservatively 370 Ex per day.

@char and scrotie
All of these cynical replies are great.

How about you provide some valid feedback instead of trolling?

This thread is to discuss the IDEA, not the SPECIFICS

Got me all hot and bothered , thanks :D

My feedback is: It is a bad idea if unconstrained because it would produce OP characters, but only for those who have no life and/or are hardcore flippers. The game has too many flippers already.

If constrained to e.g. maximum +40 it is better, but still bad because GGG would start balancing the game towards people who have those +40, effectively making an endgame build for the average player more expensive. No benefit there.

If giving +1 str and -1 dex (or one of the other 5 possible combinations), it would actually be interesting as long as you cannot drop to negative stats. Would need to drop often enough though in order to make it cost significantly less than 5 exalt (more like 3-10 chaos) in order to not run into the same problem as mentioned in the second paragraph. I still do not like it because it would benefit min-maxing characters and punish balanced characters, but that is a personal preference. Also, it would not have the desired effect you described in the opening post.


So, is this feedback now "valid" enough?

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ScrotieMcB wrote:

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AntPi1e_ wrote:

this consumable would cost between 5-40 ex

Really? How would you ensure that?

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AntPi1e_ wrote:

it would take an insane player an insane amount of time/luck/skill to amass thousands.

Oh, you mean like amassing 72 Mirrors in 39 days? That is very conservatively 370 Ex per day.

Dude that post is fake as shit. Chris even said there isn't even that many mirrors in that league, let alone one player having that many.

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goetzjam wrote:

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ScrotieMcB wrote:

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AntPi1e_ wrote:

this consumable would cost between 5-40 ex

Really? How would you ensure that?

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AntPi1e_ wrote:

it would take an insane player an insane amount of time/luck/skill to amass thousands.

Oh, you mean like amassing 72 Mirrors in 39 days? That is very conservatively 370 Ex per day.

Dude that post is fake as shit. Chris even said there isn't even that many mirrors in that league, let alone one player having that many.

IT is fake but his point is still valid, Remember GOmi? the guy got banned but after passing the first year of open beta to flip he got more than 3000 ex. Guys like that would be able to afford so much of those boost it would be op.

Not even talking about those nowdays guys like ventor who probably have at least between 10-50 mirror in standard.

ps: those 72 mirror guys still had 8 real mirrors (they faked to have 5 of them from div cards), farmed in less than 2 month

dont think we need more super ultra rare stuff that will only benefit those who farm 24/7

if anything i would rather see GGG changing quest reward so instead of geting a rare item that 99% of the time is trash we get 5-10 to an atribute of our choice.

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goetzjam wrote:

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ScrotieMcB wrote:

Oh, you mean like amassing 72 Mirrors in 39 days? That is very conservatively 370 Ex per day.

Dude that post is fake as shit. Chris even said there isn't even that many mirrors in that league, let alone one player having that many.

Eh. Even if that type of thing hasn't happened yet, I still think it falls in the realm of the possible.

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AntPi1e_ wrote:

@char and scrotie
All of these cynical replies are great.

How about you provide some valid feedback instead of trolling?

This thread is to discuss the IDEA, not the SPECIFICS

Got me all hot and bothered , thanks :D

Okay.

Everything in this game is bounded. You can get perfect, mirror-worthy rare items; you cannot get "better than perfect" rare items, even if you grinded the game literally forever. So any type of unbounded bonus, where the only limit is time and wealth - just flat out no, hell no.

Now, something along the lines of "+1 this, -1 that," where players could never surpass a certain boundary - in other words, mucker's idea - that could work, provided the boundaries actually worked and made sense (for example, cannot go below 1 Intelligence).