Path of Exile 1 Gameplay Help and Discussion - So GGG, are 2handers going to be treated fairly by global +flat damage in 2.0? - Forum

" raics wrote: I've already mentioned that a few times on various occasions. The problem was top tier flat phys on, say, an ambusher is almost equal to weapon base damage and on reaver sword it's only two thirds of base, it's the main reason for relatively low gap between perfectly crafted 1H and 2H weapons. Although I don't think scaling from outside sources should be accounted for because that should be something that fast weapon excel at, it's something you expect in games like this unless they pull off something lame like Torchlight and scale dps instead of damage to simplify balancing. However, I agree it could be tweaked a bit on weapon level to at least get similar gains from weapon mods. "Fast weapons" has nothing to do with this, stop trying to bring it up. Attack speed is nearly meaningless with regards to the 1h vs 2h disparity i'm talking about. Nor does this really have to do with local affixes and the crafting of the weapons themselves, that's at least partially accounted for. This is about global damage. It is simply a matter of global flat damage being a substantially better dps amplifier for 1handers than 2handers, due to the substantial differences in base dps between the two. While I'm not a fan of faster weapons benefiting more from global flat damage (faster weapons already have a ton going for them besides flat damage favoritism, meanwhile slower weapons have extremely few niche advantages), that's not what this thread is about. This is just a matter of 1h vs 2h.	Posted by Shppy#6163 on Jun 9, 2015, 3:42:25 PM Quote this Post
2h dps is fine, stop whining act 4 will be full of them	Posted by Ceratoidei#4354 on Jun 9, 2015, 3:44:59 PM Quote this Post
" Shppy wrote: "Fast weapons" has nothing to do with this, stop trying to bring it up. Attack speed is nearly meaningless with regards to the 1h vs 2h disparity i'm talking about. Nor does this really have to do with local affixes and the crafting of the weapons themselves, that's at least partially accounted for. This is about global damage. It is simply a matter of global flat damage being a substantially better dps amplifier for 1handers than 2handers, due to the substantial differences in base dps between the two. While I'm not a fan of faster weapons benefiting more from global flat damage (faster weapons already have a ton going for them besides flat damage favoritism, meanwhile slower weapons have extremely few niche advantages), that's not what this thread is about. This is just a matter of 1h vs 2h. I brought up ambusher and reaver sword because they have neat numbers, equal and two thirds, I wasn't comparing ambusher to other daggers or reaver to other 2H swords. The problem is twofold, onehanders scale better on weapon level because flat roll to base damage ratio is higher and they scale better globally because flat physical from other sources to final weapon damage ratio is higher. I'd fix the former but leave the latter alone. " Ceratoidei wrote: 2h dps is fine It is, I'd personally go for reducing flat damage rolls on 1H weapons. Well, there's one more thing I'd like to do but GGG would never go there, not in a million. Wish the armchair developers would go back to developing armchairs. ◄[www.moddb.com/mods/balancedux]► ◄[www.moddb.com/mods/one-vision1]► Last edited by raics#7540 on Jun 9, 2015, 4:25:26 PM	Posted by raics#7540 on Jun 9, 2015, 4:19:37 PM Quote this Post
" Ceratoidei wrote: 2h dps is fine, stop whining act 4 will be full of them 2h dps is 'fine' if you go physical or conversion/added damage based on physical. It's notably less than fine if you try to go with an elemental build.	Posted by Shppy#6163 on Jun 9, 2015, 4:57:59 PM Quote this Post