When the Marauder enters the Lower Prison, he says....

i figured it's about sex slaves.
men sex slaves who volunteer for it 'cause they like it. do they deserve death!?!?
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nope, but you do have to rub it in their faces
Give me liberty, or give me death.
I dont like that line either. Don't mind that people don't get it. It's petty and unintelligent, a weak line. I like my marauder strong, not petty.
I am the light of the morning and the shadow on the wall, I am nothing and I am all.
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CharanJaydemyr wrote:
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Samkiud wrote:

"When I kill a man, he stays dead."



Maybe he's [offensive word removed].


Or maybe you're missing the fact that he says that after encountering a zombie. You know, men that don't stay dead.



Even granting the premise, it still doesn't make much sense. Shouting "stay dead" isn't what decides whether a zombie comes back or not. It would be like squishing an ant and shouting "no more ants!"

There is no lore-reason to expect anything killed by a Marauder would stay any more dead than something killed by a Ranger or even a common NPC. The Marauder doesn't have any intrinsic characteristics that help prevent zombie outbreaks.

Marauder just has some bad lines.
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CharanJaydemyr wrote:
Because saying *anything* to something after killing it really matters?


Exactly. The Marauder addresses the thing he just killed. He gives it an imperative.

The others make general statements like "I'm getting too good at this" or "That's nature for you" which are much less ridiculous.
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cgheezey wrote:
"A slave is not a man, a slave is not even worthy of death."

ok, i'm not usually sensitive to people's words, and i cuss a lot, and i hate being called out by wimps for for using hateful speech when i don't have any hateful intentions... but this statement REALLY rubs me the wrong way. i don't normally complain about words, but this is pretty tasteless.

look, a slave is a victim. he didn't chose to be a slave. in fact, i'm quite sure that he'd prefer not to be a slave. what is the intention of this statement? am i missing something? because it seems like it's just blaming the victim. it's quite harsh. slavery is a touchy subject, and it's still a big issue in many parts of the world.

i think this phrase is mean, and it's unnecessary.

It's like the Japanese Samaurai (Unless I'm thinking of a stereotype). They prefer death over slavery, and see those that took slavery over death as cowards/traitors.
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Last edited by Nicholas_Steel#0509 on Apr 5, 2015, 12:06:00 PM
This line says more about the marauder's character than any other piece of dialogue in the game. It's perfectly fine as is.
The fact that he is upset enough that weakling exist to the degree he wants them to suffer in life, at the cost of them still inhabiting the world he walks, shows that he is held back by the small things in life and/or that his lines don't make sense. Either way marauder comes out as lesser.
I am the light of the morning and the shadow on the wall, I am nothing and I am all.
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Loreweaver wrote:
What was said about the Marauder's culture is pretty much it.

Besides, almost all of these characters are assholes. The Marauder looks down on those who don't follow the Way, unlike Haku; the Duelist murdered a man over a petty insult; the Ranger is a devout misandrist; hell, the Witch is a cannibalistic child-murderer. They're also all in a cosmic horror story. I'm not surprised that the Marauder says some pretty un-PC things. You're not necessarily supposed to agree with him.


Pretty much lol. Ive actually found it difficult to play the witch after I got curious enough to actually care about what they all did to get exiled. Templar being the more preferred as hes the truth seeker exiled for actually caring about the sanctity of the land and the corruption of its leadership through history to the present. Only class whos character isnt abrasive, unapproachable and judgemental, or guilty of something genuinely horrible

As for the comment that started this, I always interpreted that as everything about his upbringing/tribal teaching is that theres no dignity or pride in slavery especially if youre on the slave end of it. Looking down on slaves in disgust of what it means for an individual to be a slave and the fact that such a lowly position, for a person to be owned, even exists.

In terms of him looking down on individuals for allowing themselves to be enslaved instead of death by any means necessary..well...maybe he sees his own regrets, and experiences in his past in the position.
A Marauder, a wizard and a thief walk into the lower prison...

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