Righteous fire build,Kaoms heart or Belly for double curse(bloodlines)?
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I will play mostly solo.Thanks in advance.
Edit: Is double curse must for righteous fire build or dmg is fine without it to clear 77/78 maps fast? With kaom's heart i will have more hp but no scokets to utilize double curse. Last edited by And1111#6139 on Mar 1, 2015, 10:54:47 AM
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what was the question?
in case it is kaoms vs belly, then the answer is unsurprisingly: depends on your build IGN: Eric_Lindros CET: Timezone Last edited by Ludvator#6587 on Mar 1, 2015, 10:29:12 AM
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" Question was,what is better for righteous fire build,kaom's heart or belly of the beast for double curse.I will put question mark in title lol. |
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impossible to tell without knowing the details. And even with them it would be tough call
life question would be relatively easy: 1) which one gives me more total life? answer depends on: * how much + life you have from all sources? * how much % life you have? but the other ones are hard to answer 2) will the extra life (or less life?) from kaoms and fire damage compensate for not having sockets? answer will depend on many variables (regarding your build), some of them being matter of opinion ... thats why the only correct answer is: it depends IGN: Eric_Lindros CET: Timezone Last edited by Ludvator#6587 on Mar 1, 2015, 11:16:35 AM
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" All pure righteous fire builds are pretty much the same.All hp nodes,all life regen nodes,fire dmg and burninig dmg nodes.Question is what is better endgame kaom's for more hp or belly(less hp,more dmg because of 2 curses).Is extra dmg from double curse really necessary?Want to hear opinions from other players who played RF build.If you didnt play endgame rf build,you cant really help me,but thanks for trying thou. Last edited by And1111#6139 on Mar 1, 2015, 11:29:13 AM
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sure, tree is all the same (more or less), but a "build" consists of: tree, gear, gem setups and playstyle. especially gem setups and gear may vary greatly.. Ive made 3 RF builds so far, all very different. (And I have no idea how does "typical" (=currently popular?) RF build looks like)
If I knew your tree, gear and all gem setups then Id be able to give you some opinion. Dual curse is great, sure.. But does choosing kaoms automatically mean you cant have it? I dont think so.. Is dual curse necessary? probably not etc I could say "Go with bellys" but it would be Shot in the dark IGN: Eric_Lindros CET: Timezone Last edited by Ludvator#6587 on Mar 1, 2015, 11:36:32 AM
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" Gem setup:Righteous fire,inc aoe,conc effect,inc burning dmg(really dont know what can vary here) Auras also:reduced mana,pur of fire,vitality,determination Self cast en.cry and imortal call,inc duration linked with bloodmagic. Will use cyclone with blood magic and life gain on hit to proc ele equlibrium(will have some light or cold dmg on my jewelery) Also leap slam with blood magic and vaal molten shell maybe. Playstyle:cylone through enemies to proc ele eq. and gain life from life gain on hit End game gear:armor based with high life ofcourse. These are typical links and typical playstyle with rf.Dont know what can be so vastly different in RF links or playstyle if you are using only RF as dmg source. Last edited by And1111#6139 on Mar 1, 2015, 12:11:45 PM
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allright, looks like you call "the typical" FR build the one that uses only aoe burn to deal damage. This one doesnt have much variation, youre right
first step: calculate (roughly) how much life youd get for both variants. put your tree in offline tree calc to get the % values and +life from str/tree, add + life from level and estimated + life from other gear.. If belly wins or loses close, Id go with bellys the hardest part of the decision is the relative value of links in belly. You have to set the priorities. You certainly need to have 4L for RF, 4 for auras, min 3 for cyclone.. the rest is optional and theres lot of variants. You certainly should have at least one curse.. IF you have good armour you dont need IC (my opinion), maintaining 7 charges (ec+spell echo) is good enough (+ granite of iron skin).. etc.. there are certainly some variants in vaal skills, you can ie have nice one in 5L (belly) as a boss killer (for example vaal fireball + trap + gmp + fire penetration + conc effect/iron will) or something completely different... for me, it would be hard to sacrifice 5L slots for only little life (=damage) boost, but Id decide based on life calc. If it would be 15% more with kaom, Id prefer kaoms IGN: Eric_Lindros CET: Timezone Last edited by Ludvator#6587 on Mar 1, 2015, 12:27:37 PM
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" Double post. Last edited by And1111#6139 on Mar 1, 2015, 1:25:41 PM
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" endgame,i will have around 800-1000 more life with kaom's heart than with belly.But with kaoms,there will be no space for double curse(classic setup would be blood magic-cycone-curse on hit-life gain on hit-flamability-ele weakness).Someone would say that 800-1000 life is not that big difference,but it can means a lot in near rip situations.Also,with kaom more life=more base rf dmg and also 30-40% inc fire dmg on kaom's is really nice.Also,i just looked into this build http://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1179421/page/1(lv 98 bloodlines),he said that there is no need for double curse.idk.I have just started to level rf toon,so there is plenty of time for decide. Last edited by And1111#6139 on Mar 1, 2015, 1:25:06 PM
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