Kickstarter Campaign for PoE's Optional Self Found League!
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I think that if people dont want a SFL league. They should just not care. You allready got everything you wanted. Stop Cockblocking us players who actually do.
A SFL would be the best thing that could happen IMHO. Would be awesome to see people progress like that. If you dont like the idea. No need to come and say it. You allready got you Trade leagues and races and stuff. Go and play then:) |
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" What I don't get is why so many dumbasses are asking this question when the very first post in this topic answers that question. Here, for those of you too lazy to even skim over the original post: " Also, someone could make the same argument for not putting in a HC league. If you want to lose everything when you die, why not simply delete your character in a normal league after death? Oh wait..... its not the same. Because the temptation for choosing the easy way out when the going gets tough is going to be natural for most people. In a real SFL, you don't have the option of deciding to pussy out when you suddenly hit a wall and need better gear. How many "I played self found, but only traded a couple times" people have there been? That "trading a couple times" makes all the difference. And we know how players exaggerate one way or the other, so a couple of times ends up turning into trading for items every time they hit a wall. May as well not even play self found if you're a bitch who pussies out when the going gets tough. This is why we need a permanent league with set rules NO TRADING in place. Last edited by MrSmiley21#1051 on Jan 25, 2015, 7:43:46 AM
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A SFL wont be as pure as ppl make it out to be. RMT could still exist in the form of bot farmed accounts being sold (basically an account with a stash already packed with goodies).
Also this idea might get some traction on the forums due to the forum population being what it is but in the actual game with actual people playing the game (not just people who quit and whine on the forums) 99% of people probably either dont know what it is or think its a dumb idea. As such this league would probably be even more dead than hardcore league in 6 months and GGG would not be able to erase the league because the 10 people who play it would cry and make a big stink. Wanting to play self found yet wanting the drop rates to be buffed to compensate is kinda dumb IMO. Its like saying you want to play hardcore but want the game to be made easier to compensate. Self found is a self imposed challenge. Doing a self imposed challenge yet wanting the game to be altered and modified around said challenge makes no sense. Last edited by Splift#4377 on Jan 25, 2015, 7:56:14 AM
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" Someone could say the same thing about HC league. Someone could say the same thing about any league with rules that differ from the norm. Your point doesn't make any sense. |
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"I have never heard a hardcore player say they want hardcore to be made easier than standard to compensate for the fact that death is permanent. Self Found is normally supposed to be a challenge. If you buff the drops to compensate for the lack of trade the what would the actual function of them be? Also many people say competition is a factor but the funny thing is that self found would be even more unfair ladder wise than any other league. The guys who gets shavs or mjolner will have an even bigger advantage than on other ladders because on other ladders you can use the market to compensate for bad rng. In self found league the only thing you could do to compensate for bad rng is spend more time (and you could do that in other leagues as well). Last edited by Splift#4377 on Jan 25, 2015, 8:13:03 AM
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" You havent looked at some suggestions people have made. There are some who want more than 1 death in HC and things like that. Yeah, there are totally no HC players who want hardcore to be easier to compensate... |
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I think those ppl who only say "why cant you just not trade, if you want SFL" are dumb:(
Its the exact same reason why hardcore players need their own league. And also why you don't start a new char on standard. You just can't imagine such things and play like that... So I think in this game, SFL would even have more legitimation to have its own league. -If I were to play selffound, yeah, i also would like to show off with what I earned. But I could only do that if I am separated, or something proofs that I'm only SFL -Competition with other SFL players would also entertain me. But that competition would be really different than now on other leagues: Now players set their aims like getting a 6L, get the most OP expensive item you chose for your build, because you compare yourself to others, and to do the really endgame you have to have these items, and if you can't do the endgame, you are crap. And to get there you have to farm currency depressinlgy, monotonously for weeks, and during that progress you are not entertained, because you always only compare yourself to others, and you just imagine if once you have the perfect build you planned comparted to others, it will be fun. Your aims as SFL would be just to progress forward, and if you find a new unique, you don't think ah, vendorcrap, and you won't only see the currency in every item, instead you could make use of it, also you wouldn't be greedy if others found something good. Your aims wouldnt have any part of comparing yourself to what others earned. Everyone knows the feel when on the beggining of a race, you find an OP level15 rare weapon with really good mods, which just fits you and make you feel unstoppable. You don't feel such pleasure on other leagues. Everything you find you will sell, and everything you use is from trading. But trading is depressing, slow, uneffective as fck. With SFL you could have the fun you have on races, but all the time. If you are rich,powerful you'll always see other richer,more powerful people, and so than you'll feel poor,weak, and what you had until than you'd see worthless, what you could do until then would feel pointless. You could easily have tons of fun on lower lever, with lover items, lower skillsetup, but then as you see others, you will feel like you must reach where they are, get what they have, etc and somehow you can't have fun until than. Lot of fun ruined because of the garbage trading system, depressing droprates RNG, bad build balance, etc, and competiting under such terms playing is depressing, but in SFL you wont have to worry about any of these.. But I don't think GGG members knows these feelings, as neither of them plays in the way of an average player, and the amount as us. SFL could easilly be done, in many ways, there's a lot of possibility and ideas, there's no obstacle, we just need to make GGG hear us.. D3 treasure goblins's escape portal is an entrance to Wraeclast Last edited by Moeeom123#3573 on Jan 25, 2015, 8:43:38 AM
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"Well of course this being the internet of all the masses of opinions there will exist a few ridiculous ones on the extreme edges. I think most would agree that the vast majority of HC players would want HC to be even harder than SC (onslaught for example). |
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" There is a thread with more pages than this one, i think they heard you loud and clear. |
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" I'd appreciate if you left your personality flaws out of my game thank you very much. |
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