[1.3.] WoE + BoR CLEAVE BUILD 55/55 BLOCK +49K DPS TOOLTIP / Atziri Down !

https://poebuilder.com/character/AAAAAgQAA4cKmxXsGbQbrSzpR35KfWBBY3BlTWXwZ6B1TnjrfXWE2Ydqh3aK8JBspo2plLkdvTa-p8rT037dDeOf5wrveu_j_MX-uqQ50IFH4iLiFSBKyD8nKk064aZXTeP-jzWStfJuqv4K8kXYveRRZ5uuPnfjPC3Grrc-Xz8UIO8OUEcTTCb4F-FOMsGj-OvqGPcycqnE9ln-MHfiYWRSfNkILu2DGY4AXqknBS1673TthO9hIWBL0_wJWNunwYshYECgXhM67TXvgUHpRsqQz352rA==

This is the tree I have posted in my (now)updated guide.
Major stats are(lvl 87 tree):
-412% increased phys damage + 26% increased main hand damage
-75% increased attack speed + 20% increased off hand attack speed
-187% increased maximum life
-11% increased block chance (55% chance to block with corrupted lazwhar)
-4.8% regen/second
-60% increased flask recovery

Whereas your tree, subwooper, has the following at 87(filled in life nodes):
-178% increased phys damage + 26% increased main hand damage
-44% WED (negligible increase in dps)
-54% increased attack speed + 20% increased off hand attack speed
-189% increased maximum life
-11% increased block chance (55% chance to block with corrupted lazwhar)
-3.8% regen/second
-AoE nodes, resist nodes, chaos res
-20% increased flask recovery

Onemesis' tree has the following:
-349% increased phys damage + 26% increased main hand damage
-50% increased attack speed + 20% increased off hand attack speed
-179% increased maximum life
-15% increased block chance (59% chance to block with corrupted lazwhar)
-3% regen/second
-20% increased flask recovery

Decide for yourself.


By the way, could you show your stats, ONemesis? Your tree has the closest stats to mine and I have not been able to test the new tree on my WoE BoR yet since I used the respec for a different build.
For try, for see, and for know.

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@Etherfire Tree you posted looks good. Just to throw into the mix, what I believe is a more defensive approach (I've included your points from another topic - thx):

https://poebuilder.com/character/AAAAAgQAA4cEswlYEdUVIBXsGbQbrSFgIuIj9ipNLOkwfDWSNe84GzrtPC0_J0MxR35H4krITP9NklFHU7tXl16LYEFjcGVNaPJuqnKpfNl9dX8rgUGDvYTZh2qK8I19jb-f36IApDmplK9ssHOwq7Xytz65Hb02vqe_1cBmwYvEFcSCxPbGrsrT0IHTftP81orYvdun3efveu987-PwH_cy_gr-ut0N_MV46wqb5wpeRZLz-utl8HVOpo0ILu2DGY4AXlb6d9dKfeOfh3ZnoP6P6UamV03j8kU64Q==

Major stats are(lvl 87 tree):
-279% phys dmg increase + 26% increased main hand damage
-73% ias + 20% increased off hand attack speed
-16% inc aoe
-216% evasion
-59% block (with corrupted lazwhar)
-181% life
-3% life regen
-80% life recovery from flasks
-60 int
-64 max life
-42 all res

Trade-offs are:
-133% less phys dmg increase
-6% less life
-1.8% less life regen
-2% less attack speed (not an issue at all)
-1% less max fire resist
VS
+1% max cold resist
+112% more evasion inc
+4% more block
+Ondals (doubles projectile evasion)
+30 more int
+29% more all resists
+16% inc area of effect for attacks (this is one is huge increase to clear speed)
+20% more life revovery from flask (not that important but still a benefit)
+20% flask recovery


I would run purity of lightning, hatred, herald of ash / purity of fire with this build. Purity of fire for Atziri, Crematorium and Courtyard bosses. Herald for everything else.
So what u really need from gear in terms of resistances are 73 fire, ~45 light, 74 cold.
That opens up lots of gear possibilites to maximize +life, dmg, leech, attack speed.

I think we're underestimating evasion. Imo it's currently second best line of defence for this build. Look:

Spoiler

With just BoR and
with 104% evasion increase from tree you should have around 22% chance to evade considering lvl 78 monster.
with 216% evasion increase from tree you should have around 28% chance to evade considering lvl 78 monster.

Not that impresive you say, but that's like having 6% more block and with Ondals like having 12% more projectile block.

Tree comparision in terms of defence mechanics:

55% block/spell block, 22% chance to evade and no Ondals gives:
-35% chance that you will get hit by a melee attack
-35% chance that you will get hit by a projectile
-45% chance that you will be damaged by a spell

59% block/spell block, 28% chance to evade with Ondals gives:
-29% chance that you will get hit by a melee attack
-18% chance that you will get hit by a projectile
-41% chance that you will be damaged by a spell

Some spells are also projectiles.

+Int and all res opens more gear options to suit build better.
If you have good 400+ evasion gloves you'll benefit more from increased evasion.

Latest guides:
3.11 Loki's Rainbownuke:
https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/2904155
3.7 CI CoC Discharge: https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/2605608
3.7 Juggernaut life Mjolner: https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1846362
Last edited by RicoKGB on Dec 31, 2014, 7:53:08 AM

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Last edited by redix27 on Dec 31, 2014, 6:10:50 AM
Your changes look good to me Rico. I haven't seen the tree yet because I'm currently on phone. Just one thing I'll say again, don't go for resists on the tree. It can be maxed on gear.

All in all I'll say that I like your changes. I'll take a look to see if I can optimise further. Thanks for the feedback!
For try, for see, and for know.

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All in all I'll say that I like your changes. I'll take a look to see if I can optimise further. Thanks for the feedback!


Can you put your gear and link gems?

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You can find everything in my guide.
For try, for see, and for know.

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I really like Subwooper's build, I'm level 92 and have been able to beat Atziri again. Thanks for helping. I have Double legacy BoR, all 20/20 gems and a 120% WoE. I use Cleave, my DPS with frenzy charges is 31,500 with Increased AoE and 52,600 with Conc. Effect. I have 5,300 hitpoints.

Here is my passive tree:
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https://www.poebuilder.com/character/AAAAAgQAFey5HYrwxILpRrCrvqe9NmVNR36E2WNwYEER1VeXQzFTu7_VRJ6wcyFg0_wJWNunwYs67TXvgUEY23Tx3Q1br0p945-Hdmeg_MUKm3jr5wrTfu96_rp9dQOH7-Mbre4OTZIj9qOKeA2-igHcqW618m202L01kjGepldN4_6P_grGrrc-U6UMXxynPC3EFcT2fNn3MnKpz352rOoY_lQNzStQHM49D3flfLski1figpvtIOFzogBo8vAfwGYEs5_f73w8BZBVJy_sOMAaGjj60mae42oWbzbpJKo=

Here are some of the stat highlights from poebuilder:
50 % increased Armour
50 % increased Block Recovery
102 % increased Evasion Rating and Armour
209 % increased maximum Life
4.8 % of Life Regenerated per Second
64 + to maximum Life
20 +% to Chaos Resistance
8 +% to Fire Resistance
27 +% to all Elemental Resistances
1 +% to maximum Fire Resistance

BaseStats
160 + to Dexterity
60 + to Intelligence
230 + to Strength
30 + to Strength and Intelligence

Weapon
250 % increased Damage (total of all damage additions)
2 + to Melee Weapon and Unarmed range

Spell
8 % increased Area Damage
5 % increased Attack and Cast Speed
5 % increased Effect of Buffs on You
20 % increased Radius of Area Skills
14 % increased Spell Damage
19 % reduced Mana Cost of Skills


I walk around with 51% block, but get to 75% again with Rumi's, only really necessary against bosses/Atziri. Since the 1.3 patch I now self-cast Enduring Cry (with a spell echo) and use Vengeance and Riposte gems. I really like the new trigger gems. I plan on getting this guy to 100 (eventually) and will most likely get damage passives with my last 8 points.

Gear
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Last edited by Gruffalope on Jan 1, 2015, 12:12:31 PM
So, just curious, but could you also start from the Ranger tree since some of these modified builds pretty much touch the starting nodes? It'd make the grind to RT even longer and you'd have to sacrifice two a couple skill points but I really, really hate the look of the Duelist...a lot...
Yes, you can absolutely start as a Ranger and be fine, especially with tree I've posted.

Now, this is my final variant for Cleavers:

https://poebuilder.com/character/AAAAAgQAAF4DhwSzCC4JWAqbEdUUIBUgFewZjhm0G60hYCLiI_YqTSzpMHw1kjXvOBs67TwtPydDMUd-R-JKyEz_TZJQR1FHU7tXl15FXotfP2BBY3BlTWebaPJuqnKpd-N463zZfXV_K4FBg72E2YdqivCNfY2_kAqS85_fogCjiqQ5qZSuPq9ssHOwq7Xytz65Hb02vqe_1cBmwYvEgsT2xq7K09CB037T_NaK2L3bp90N3efkUecK7YPuDu8O73rvfO_j8B_3Mvrr_MX-Cv66Sn3jn4d2Z6DpRg==

Dont be misjudge by "only" 176% life. That tree has lots of strength and +life nodes in it.

And for dual strikers:

https://poebuilder.com/character/AAAAAgQAAF4DhwSzCC4JWAqbEdUUIBUgFewZjhm0G60hYCLiI_YqTSzpMHw1kjXvOBs67TwtPydDMUd-R-JKyEz_TZJQR1FHU7tXl15FXotfP2BBY3BlTWebaPJuqnKpd-N463zZfXV_K4FBg72E2YdqivCNfY2_kAqS85_fogCjiqQ5qZSuPq9ssHOwq7Xytz65Hb02vqe_1cBmwYvEgsT2xq7K09CB037T_NaK2L3bp90N3efkUecK7YPuDu8O73rvfO_j8B_3Mvrr_MX-Cv66_lQNzStQHM49Dw==

It's necessary to go with reduced cost of skills. Having this amount of attack speed you'll run into mana problems with dual strike.

As for dual strike vs cleave. Cleave opens more flexibility: Quality increase aoe gem for trash mobs and Concentrated effect for bosses. But if you're lazy like me and want best of both worlds without necessity of swaping gems here and there, you can go with dual strike + quality (important) melee splash. And I believe damage and claer speed with dual strike is better than Cleave + Inc aoe gem. Because cleave attack is more focused on one direction, it's broad but still - one direction. With multistrike you will see that cleave changes enemies to change direction of attack, and those that are in the back at the moment arent affected. With melee splash you attack everything 360 degrees arround you within its range. Thus quality melee splash and inc aoe nodes from my tree helps greatly.

I've tested above trees extensively, including several attempts on those hard hitting boses like Necropolis Mervill, Torture Chamber "snake", Jungle Valley spider, Residence Dominus, Temple Piety, Courtyard trio, Cells Harbinger and so on, and it works beatifully. Currently sitting with 4,5k hp, 34k dual strike dps, 57/55 block/spell block, 35% to evade lvl 78 monster melee attack, 70% to evade lvl 78 monster's projectile, 220 life regen / s, exelent life recovery from flasks.

Above trees are a hybrid between my earlier version and newest etherfire version. Still, to work as intended build requires legacy items and at least 2% block corrupted lawzhar.


Latest guides:
3.11 Loki's Rainbownuke:
https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/2904155
3.7 CI CoC Discharge: https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/2605608
3.7 Juggernaut life Mjolner: https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1846362
Last edited by RicoKGB on Jan 2, 2015, 9:04:37 AM

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