GUI Feedback
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First of all: thanks for the lootfilter, "hp-bar on self", "corner minimap", "player names on map" and many other features that were added in 2.0, that I asked for :). The GUI was improved quiet a bit and I can now actually see the floor again (no longer obstructed by overhead map and item labels).
1. One chatbox for all? So 820+guild+party+whispers+system messages = omg my chatlog goes nuts. Am I supposed to mute my guild or something? You can't be serious. I need at least 2. And the "player_x joined/left the area." messages x4 or x8 when going through one or 2 portals with a full party or when disbanding a party just adds to the spam. I also missed some trades because I went afk for 1-2 minutes, then came back and the party-spam about real-life-issues hid the whispers that I received. And unlike global- and guild-chat I can't turn it off and remove the party text to see the whispers. I mean, my friends real-life issues can't be more important than ingame trades... ;) 2. The GUI, it's not ugly, but it's not pretty either. Slightly reskinning it every patch doesn't make it better. Customization would be the best solution imo. Not the easiest to implement though. 3. It does not show information clearly. - I have to set the loot allocation in the party screen. But I have to press tab to see the actual allocation. - The buffs&debuffs, loot-labels, damage, no numeric-charges on potions/uses left, etc. - No xp calculator ingame (to calculate your xp penalty on levels 70-100 so you know what maps to run). I'm always using external ones but it should just say so when I hover over my character-level or whatever alike. 4. I expected an option to reclaim all my mtx gear from all characters. And another one to reclaim all from all hideouts from all leagues. 5. When I joined the guild my game almost froze. Because the game had to list all 200+ guildmembers for some reason. 6. Bad focus. Ever tried to open that solid-door, but a few mobs on the other side are stealing your mouse-focus? Yeah... spending 10 seconds trying to open it until you realize that it might be better to lure them away and then open the door. Or when you try to target Vagan, but you can't... Because the game gives precedence to targeting friendly-party-members for some reason and there is no way to disable it. Try landing that puncture shot... Or when someone is blocking the master, the game focuses your teammate/exile instead of the master so you can't turn in the quest until he moves. Why would I EVER want to focus another friendly-exile anyway? To heal him or something? I don't understand. 7. Extra tab in the character-sheet for the masters would be nice. It could contain the following info (if master discovered): - Time until reset. - Level+xp of each master. - Whether or not their daily is currently available. - Their location perhaps (hideout/specific town/lab)? 8. No "last seen online dd-mm-yyyy" feature. Guilds that reach the member-cap have to use forums and other methods to check who is active and who is not in order to make room. 9. (not sure if issue still exists in 2.0) Steam users are unable to redeem Karma Koins in-game. They get the Steam-popup immediately without any other options. (Steam users can however still redeem those cards through this site using the shop here) 10. There is no option to restore the last deleted character. When you delete a character it is permanently gone and can not be restored in any way. It would be nice to be able to restore the last-deleted-character within ~48 hours. 11. (2.0 fixed it so people who are not in your party can no longer sneak into your maps/masters) There is no option to kick unwanted people (from a previous trade or chain or free master) out of your crumbled lab (and possible other instances). See screenshot: http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=349876961 People who linger in your hideout and then sneak into your daily are a pain and I see it occurs about once a week. In this case a level 69 sneaking into a level 8 Zana trying to leech free xp. Took us like 5 minutes before we got him to leave. It's even worse if they open the portals and just run in before we even get there. 12. No ignore list and no warning that a fellow party-member is on your ignore list. And the friends-list becomes really messy really fast. I also don't understand why the big portraits are required. But at least we have a friends-list. 13. (not sure if this issue still exists in 2.0) I'm not quiet sure if this falls under the GUI category. But 450 ping in my own hideout with no option to create a new instance. Sure I can go afk for 15 minutes or go for the "failed to join instance" bug but come on... Give us a button for that! 15. When signing into the forums through Steam, the forum doesn't return me to the last visited page and it also does not keep me logged in. I have to sign in every time again. 16. Lootfilter 'scripting' could use a bit of polishing. Like allow use to filter on map-level, gem-level, add a NOT-operator, etc. 17. Allow us to scale, position and zoom the minimap (the one that is now in the upper right corner). 18. No combat log. Sometimes I die instantly with 5k+ hp and max res and I have no idea how or what killed me. How can I learn from it then... Prior to 2.0 (outdated):
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So about this Userinterface. Some screenshots:
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Overlapping map-mods: http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=331870782 http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=342292488 Overlapping chat (I just used /cls so just one single system-message but you get the idea): http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=338279621 Spot the debuff. Try to do so in less than 1-2 seconds, because that is how fast you can die on Beyond. Good, and now try to do that while playing and while in a full party: http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=338305935 Buffs&Debuffs overlapped by any timer: http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=340906754 NEW MINIGAME!: Let's play "Find the item that sell for a chrome game". Yes GGG wants us to play this game all the time. And it's time based because not even with PA is it allocated so find it before your teammates do: http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=338393310
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(solution: rare ambush boots)
It pays off in the end to collect them all (loot from elreon7 chain): http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=338760988 Another minigame: Chemist boxes with +quality. Literally smash and grab for the first one to get them... Why are those never allocated either... Running Elreon, but I can't see anything: http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=338761274 Random funny non-gui-related glitch (arrows glitch EVERYWHERE, note: not a bug but I added a report in the screenshot just in case): http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=338761086 Leveling gems (and the chat location): http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=346876549 The gems that I wanted to level were not visible on the screen... For some reason the gems are not (always) sorted. And clicking those others away will make me forget to level those later on... My issues with the GUI: 1. It has at least 3+ overlapping area's + the loot problems. You can no longer read all the info. I run a 1920 resolution and there are so many overlapping things in the GUI. Loot problems: http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=337690095 http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=337690056 I can't find my screenshot where the enemy hp-bar overlaps my debuffs where I can no longer see my puncture debuff. And puncture/cb are hard to spot in full parties with lots of SFX&GFX flying everywhere. Also arctic breath and such make it near impossible to detect whether or not you are standing on desecrated-ground/lighting/burning/etc. And the debuff is not visible because of this GUI. And WHEN it is, it might be impossible to spot. And not to mention, the overlapping chatbox with the party-list on the left. 2. One chatbox for all? So 820+guild+party+whispers+system messages = omg my chatlog goes nuts. Am I supposed to mute my guild or something? You can't be serious. I need at least 2. And the "player_x joined/left the area." messages x4 or x8 when going through one or 2 portals with a full party or when disbanding a party just adds to the spam. I also missed some trades because I went afk for 1-2 minutes, then came back and the party-spam about real-life-issues hid the whispers that I received. And unlike global- and guild-chat I can't turn it off and remove the party text to see the whispers. I mean, my friends real-life issues can't be more important than ingame trades... ;) 3. The GUI, it's not ugly, but it's not pretty either. Slightly reskinning it every patch doesn't make it better. 4. It's not customizable. Okay I can live with that. Would be nice to at least change the size/scale and location of my chat-window but okay I can live with it. 5. It does not show information clearly. - I have to set the loot allocation in the party screen. But I have to press tab to see the actual allocation. Makes sense... - The buffs&debuffs, loot-labels, damage, no numeric-charges on potions/uses left, etc. - No xp calculator ingame (to calculate your xp penalty on levels 70-100 so you know what maps to run). I'm always using external ones but it should just say so when I hover over my character-level or whatever alike. 6. Item-labels (item drop info): Most of the time I'm running with all items enabled on the floor and not being able to see what I'm shooting at. Why? Because if I don't, I miss a lot of good items. And 80% of the items that are shortly shown (the engine assumes that I'm interested in crappy rare chest-pieces. But uniq chestpieces are usually the way to go) are crap to me. Not to mention that some of them are only highlighted when the mob dies off-screen so I never see that chaos orb at all without running [Z] active all the time. I just want to see: 3-different-color-linked, gavels, ALL currencies (auto-pickup?), all maps, uncommon+ uniqs (don't bother with the common ones), configurable auto-pickup on scrolls/portals (god I even have to buy extra now and then because I'm to lazy to click em everywhere.) and certain ilvl76+ jewelry items. Hence the reason Why I stopped picking up most rare items now. Only rare belts and jewelry I pick up. Because for every rare that I pick up to sell for alts I also have to pick up a wisdom scroll. I just gave up on this. Some item labels are even shown in the wrong room... Even when it is not completely cluttered with items. I tried just hitting [alt] every 3 seconds but after a week or so your finger literally hurts from that [alt]-key. So that is no option either unless you don't play seriously. and scripting it is not allowed. 7. I wouldn't mind having my hp-bar near my character somehow (half a circle) or a better indication of my hp in fast-parties when I'm not playing a tank. Things go fast including your hp-pool and by the time you notice it was drained by cb or something else you may already be too late. 8. I expected an option to reclaim all my mtx gear from all characters. And another one to reclaim all from all hideouts from all leagues. 9. An option to see the fps&ping clearly without having all those large (for me useless) graphs in my screen through the [F1] button. Everytime I join a master or a map from someone else on Beyond I have to press [F1] twice to check the ping for safety reasons. And then another double tap to check the map-mods quickly. And on standard-league I also have to double-tab tab to check for the reflect-mod but I can leave out the [F1]-check on standard. UPDATE: Steam can now shows FPS ingame and you can now press [F1] twice for a smaller and actually useable 'ping-window' 10. When I joined the guild my game almost froze. Because the game had to list all 200+ guildmembers for some reason. 11. Bad focus. Ever tried to open that solid-door, but a few mobs on the other side are stealing your mouse-focus? Yeah... spending 10 seconds trying to open it until you realize that it might be better to lure them away and then open the door. Or when you try to target Vagan, but you can't... Because the game gives precedence to targeting friendly-party-members for some reason and there is no way to disable it. Try landing that puncture shot... Yes another minigame! Or when someone is blocking the master, the game focuses your teammate/exile instead of the master so you can't turn in the quest until he moves. Why would I EVER want to focus another friendly-exile anyway? To heal him or something? I don't understand. 12. Extra tab in the character-sheet for the masters would be nice. It could contain the following info (if master discovered): - Time until reset. - Level+xp of each master. - Whether or not their daily is currently available. - Their location perhaps (hideout/specific town/lab)? 13. No "last seen online dd-mm-yyyy" feature. Guilds that reach the member-cap have to use forums and other methods to check who is active and who is not in order to make room. 14. I wanted to level my Increased Duration gem. So I clicked the plus-sign on the right side of my screen (not the inventory-screen). BUT just when I clicked it another gem was added to the list causing all gems to be pushed down one row. You can probably guess it already: The GUI made me click the immortal call instead, which then outleveled the CWDT... Had to start over with a new lvl 1 IC-gem... I was so mad. How can you possibly code it like that... Protip: When you are also leveling gems linked to CWDT, only level them in town or not near mobs to avoid this. 15. Steam users are unable to redeem Karma Koins in-game. They get the Steam-popup immediately without any other options. (Steam users can however still redeem those cards through this site using the shop here) 16. There is no option to restore the last deleted character. When you delete a character it is permanently gone and can not be restored in any way. It would be nice to be able to restore the last-deleted-character within ~48 hours. 17. The minimap is very basic. If I find Catarina's totem and I say "I found it! It's south!" Then they will say "which green dot in the southern area are you?"... Erm... Yea... At least add short-names to dots or add pings or markers. Drawing on it would be overkill though. That way I can also see clearly the name of the one who failed the Vorici mission ;). Or if we follow a tank who leads the way through a map-clear that we can easily identify him. A zoom(-out) option would also be nice as the current zoom-option is only [tab]. But my screen is already overly filled with useless item labels and party-skill-effects so this option isn't always that great. UPDATE: In 2.0 they actually added playernames to the map! 18. There is no option to kick unwanted people (from a previous trade or chain or free master) out of your crumbled lab (and possible other instances). See screenshot: http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=349876961 People who linger in your hideout and then sneak into your daily are a pain and I see it occurs about once a week. In this case a level 69 sneaking into a level 8 Zana trying to leech free xp. Took us like 5 minutes before we got him to leave. It's even worse if they open the portals and just run in before we even get there. 19. No ignore list and no warning that a fellow party-member is on your ignore list. And the friends-list becomes really messy really fast. I also don't understand why the big portraits are required. But at least we have a friends-list. 20. I'm not quiet sure if this falls under the GUI category. But 450 ping in my own hideout with no option to create a new instance. Sure I can go afk for 15 minutes or go for the "failed to join instance" bug but come on... Give us a button for that! 21. Give premium stash tabs a small search bar. So tired of finding the right skill-gem or map in a tab full of it. They look too much alike. I don't care if you add another MTX for a more expensive premium-tab with a search-bar. I'm sorry I try not to be negative about games but this GUI... Is the worst of the worst. I really do not understand why it's so bad. It just doesn't match the rest of the game and is everything except informative. 22. Give premium stash tabs a small search bar. So tired of finding the right skill-gem or map in a tab full of it. They look too much alike. I don't care if you add another MTX for a more expensive premium-tab with a search-bar. Update: Now at bottom of stash tabs! They actually implemented this as well! 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Last edited by silverdash#0964 on Aug 10, 2015, 8:10:40 AM
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Too much text right? :P.
Not a single person telling me that the GUI isn't that bad. Or even agreeing with me? Guess it's just me who is bothered by it. |
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I agree with you about the map mods and its fun to play the chrome game
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I can't see anyone disagreeing with the majority of your points. Very good feedback but not much to discuss about I guess.
Only thing of that I want to see fixed asap is the overlay stuff. |
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Well then I'd be interested in the minority of points that people would disagree with.
But I feel that the more you play this game, the more annoying the points that I mentioned become. The first 300 hours or so it didn't bother me at all. But after a 1000+ hours... It does tremendously. And yes I should get a real life. |
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A bump to find someone who disagrees with me :P. Any point.
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I agree 'em all!
Beware of the man who works hard to learn something, learns it, and finds himself no wiser than before. He is full of murderous resentment of people who are ignorant without having come by their ignorance the hard way.
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"Okay then. I disagree with 10
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but it is only because my guild is small :)
And worst change is putting almost all bosses in new version of maps into fucking small areas, where you can't kite well or dodge stuff. What a terrible idiot invented that I want say to him: dude flick you, seriously flick you very much.
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Then #10 doesn't apply to you, in this case. But if you were to join a guild with 200+ members, I bet your game would also freeze when joining a super large guild. Therefor it could still bug you in the future.
#10 is no biggie, I mean, how often do you join a guild? Once a year? But it does show how badly the GUI needs to be improved. They just never tested it for big guilds when designing #10. I'd like too see my feet again. No I'm not fat!
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Might not be totally related to the GUI but like I mentioned in another topic: " Because on Beyond it is kinda bad to not notice that you are standing on lighting+burning ground, or worse, are about to walk onto an exile-trap. The GUI doesn't tell you this clearly and if teammates are spamming all kinds of effects on the screen you can't see the ground anymore, at all. |
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I agree, but just don't feel as strongly about these points as I do about some of the real bugs...
One more GUI point: I'm weak at colours, so the text explosions are especially tedious to parse and I'm sure I miss a lot of chromatic items. But people have been complaining about this since closed beta and all GGG did was remove the structure from the socket frames so the colour is now the only distinguishing feature. So if you're unlucky, they'll make all texts bigger and overlap even more as a "fix" to your feedback ;) May your maps be bountiful, exile Last edited by SisterBlister#7589 on Nov 12, 2014, 10:06:38 AM
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