Necromancer Aegis/Shield Question

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Saltychipmunk wrote:
t you can get 30 from the guardian, 30 from a midnight and 20 from this which is 80%, no small number


thats why i recommend any person to use a 60% rathpith :P. Summoners should use spectres (just because they are ranged and it prevents stacking up too much on the same spot) and thus spell dmg gets in way more handy in most cases.
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leary93 wrote:
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Saltychipmunk wrote:
t you can get 30 from the guardian, 30 from a midnight and 20 from this which is 80%, no small number


thats why i recommend any person to use a 60% rathpith :P. Summoners should use spectres (just because they are ranged and it prevents stacking up too much on the same spot) and thus spell dmg gets in way more handy in most cases.


that depends , specter items happen to conflict with prominent mf items.

gold wyrm and an off hand reapers axe alone would lose you 40% iir and 20% iiq, the iir i can see being disposable , but the iiq is hard to stack right now , so that 60% spell damage is as good as how many specters you have.

plus you would need 2 midnights if you off hand cull without losing a specter ( considering how much of a bitch it is to find gem slots , you probably will be)
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Saltychipmunk wrote:
plus you would need 2 midnights if you off hand cull without losing a specter ( considering how much of a bitch it is to find gem slots , you probably will be)

That doesn't actually work. When switching from main-hand midnight to off-hand midnight there's a brief moment where you have no weapon equipped causing you to lose a spectre.
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Saltychipmunk wrote:
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leary93 wrote:
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Saltychipmunk wrote:
t you can get 30 from the guardian, 30 from a midnight and 20 from this which is 80%, no small number


thats why i recommend any person to use a 60% rathpith :P. Summoners should use spectres (just because they are ranged and it prevents stacking up too much on the same spot) and thus spell dmg gets in way more handy in most cases.


that depends , specter items happen to conflict with prominent mf items.

gold wyrm and an off hand reapers axe alone would lose you 40% iir and 20% iiq, the iir i can see being disposable , but the iiq is hard to stack right now , so that 60% spell damage is as good as how many specters you have.

plus you would need 2 midnights if you off hand cull without losing a specter ( considering how much of a bitch it is to find gem slots , you probably will be)


I dont see why you think running with fewer spectres (i.e. losing clearspeed) would be better than using a bit more iir/iiq for maps, and for dom, if you gonna use MF gear anyways, why the hell bother choosing between rathpith and daresso's? you'd either use reapers or wheel of the stormsail anyways right?
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Mokihiki wrote:
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Saltychipmunk wrote:
plus you would need 2 midnights if you off hand cull without losing a specter ( considering how much of a bitch it is to find gem slots , you probably will be)

That doesn't actually work. When switching from main-hand midnight to off-hand midnight there's a brief moment where you have no weapon equipped causing you to lose a spectre.




it is times like this that ggg just need to take their summoning mechanics behind a shed and violently murder them , and then start from scratch because this shit does not work at all

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leary93 wrote:


I dont see why you think running with fewer spectres (i.e. losing clearspeed) would be better than using a bit more iir/iiq for maps, and for dom, if you gonna use MF gear anyways, why the hell bother choosing between rathpith and daresso's? you'd either use reapers or wheel of the stormsail anyways right?


incorrect:


specters are affected greatly by items, zombies are not, most of your damage in mf builds will be the zombies. So the choice of daressos still makes plenty of sense since it is a 20% damage buff (additive) to 10 minions rather than a 40 - 60% to 2 minions.

and you would not use storm sail for the obvious reason of necro aegis. you would use reapers on an off hand in all likelihood since this also means you can socket in a iiq gem once standard hits.

but it is not like you run around with your culling axe out , no you weaken enemies with your main sheild and wand , then switch weapons to cull probably with arc.
Last edited by Saltychipmunk#1430 on Nov 6, 2014, 8:03:19 AM
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Saltychipmunk wrote:
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Mokihiki wrote:
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Saltychipmunk wrote:
plus you would need 2 midnights if you off hand cull without losing a specter ( considering how much of a bitch it is to find gem slots , you probably will be)

That doesn't actually work. When switching from main-hand midnight to off-hand midnight there's a brief moment where you have no weapon equipped causing you to lose a spectre.




it is times like this that ggg just need to take their summoning mechanics behind a shed and violently murder them , and then start from scratch because this shit does not work at all

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leary93 wrote:


I dont see why you think running with fewer spectres (i.e. losing clearspeed) would be better than using a bit more iir/iiq for maps, and for dom, if you gonna use MF gear anyways, why the hell bother choosing between rathpith and daresso's? you'd either use reapers or wheel of the stormsail anyways right?


incorrect:


specters are affected greatly by items, zombies are not, most of your damage in mf builds will be the zombies. So the choice of daressos still makes plenty of sense since it is a 20% damage buff (additive) to 10 minions rather than a 40 - 60% to 2 minions.

and you would not use storm sail for the obvious reason of necro aegis. you would use reapers on an off hand in all likelihood since this also means you can socket in a iiq gem once standard hits.

but it is not like you run around with your culling axe out , no you weaken enemies with your main sheild and wand , then switch weapons to cull probably with arc.


*even with just 3 spectres and 9 zombies, (midnight bargain and 1 from tree) the 60% will increase the dmg of the spectres by a much higher flat amount than the 20% will increase on the zombies.
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that assumes you have room to put your culling gems on your main gear and it also means no culling off hand which can be unfortunate

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