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CharanJaydemyr wrote:
Then the entire game is fatal to characters, Gob. If that is unspoken, when the game actually announces it, I would assume it means really fucking fatal. Like, die. Now.

ESPECIALLY if there's something as theatrical as a goddamn countdown from ten.

Wraeclast is a cruel, savage world, not an asylum. So why do people expect padded walls?


It's not really unspoken. It's constantly mentioned how deadly, lethal, disastrous, devastating, ruinous, catastrophic, calamitous, and/or cataclysmic (all synonyms of fatal) Wraeclast is.

And yes, the entire game is fatal to characters. That's why the word damage is probably the most recurring word in all PoE's text.

I don't expect padded walls. I just don't really see why you'd use an ambiguous word where perfectly adequate words exist.

"You die after some time"
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CharanJaydemyr wrote:
Then the entire game is fatal to characters, Gob. If that is unspoken, when the game actually announces it, I would assume it means really fucking fatal. Like, die. Now.

ESPECIALLY if there's something as theatrical as a goddamn countdown from ten.

Wraeclast is a cruel, savage world, not an asylum. So why do people expect padded walls?


FATAL DOESN'T MEAN INSTANT DEATH Charan GAWD
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Mah morn narr
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I_NO wrote:
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CharanJaydemyr wrote:
Then the entire game is fatal to characters, Gob. If that is unspoken, when the game actually announces it, I would assume it means really fucking fatal. Like, die. Now.

ESPECIALLY if there's something as theatrical as a goddamn countdown from ten.

Wraeclast is a cruel, savage world, not an asylum. So why do people expect padded walls?


FATAL DOESN'T MEAN INSTANT DEATH Charan GAWD


Well, it's either fatal or it's not.
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SicariusOblente wrote:
we didnt know the fatal was meant for instant death


You need some English lessons, son..
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Gobla wrote:


I don't expect padded walls. I just don't really see why you'd use an ambiguous word where perfectly adequate words exist.

"You die after some time"


But by the logic running around in this thread even that would be ambiguous, I mean no where does it say you just fall over dead which seems to be the issue some or most are having. Fatal is fine it is used in a proper context, too often it gets used in place of life-threatening or equivalent phrases/words today.

Edit: Also look at it like this if it was some degen or something then someone out there would find a build that breaks it and then suddenly poof the statement is no longer true and would be more like meh its fatal to most.
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Zeshin wrote:
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Gobla wrote:


I don't expect padded walls. I just don't really see why you'd use an ambiguous word where perfectly adequate words exist.

"You die after some time"


But by the logic running around in this thread even that would be ambiguous, I mean no where does it say you just fall over dead which seems to be the issue some or most are having. Fatal is fine it is used in a proper context, too often it gets used in place of life-threatening or equivalent phrases/words today.

Edit: Also look at it like this if it was some degen or something then someone out there would find a build that breaks it and then suddenly poof the statement is no longer true and would be more like meh its fatal to most.


"You die" literally means just falling over dead. It's not a lead-up to an event, it's the deadly event itself. The sentence itself does not describe a chain of events with an eventual outcome, it describes the outcome itself.

"Fatal" literally means causing death. It's a lead-up to an event, the death, it's not the event itself. It describes a not further specified chain of events with the eventual outcome of death. It does not describe the death itself.

The difference between "You die" and "fatal" is the difference between "I'm here" and "I'm on the way".
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CharanJaydemyr wrote:
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I_NO wrote:
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CharanJaydemyr wrote:
Then the entire game is fatal to characters, Gob. If that is unspoken, when the game actually announces it, I would assume it means really fucking fatal. Like, die. Now.

ESPECIALLY if there's something as theatrical as a goddamn countdown from ten.

Wraeclast is a cruel, savage world, not an asylum. So why do people expect padded walls?


FATAL DOESN'T MEAN INSTANT DEATH Charan GAWD


I'm fairly GGG sure left it a little vague just so people would stick around, for see and try and, you know.

Also, they like to be vague with unique map mods. Gives players a few surprises, or at least something to learn. Restless Dead ring a bell?

Surprise, fuckers. Fatal means fatal!

I find this way less insidious than corrupting blood or Dominus' blood rain. Neither of those are ever explained in-game.

Edit: Zeshin is right. The only way to keep players from trying to break something is to make it absolute.

Then again, anyone tried VIC?



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Gobla wrote:
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Zeshin wrote:
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Gobla wrote:


I don't expect padded walls. I just don't really see why you'd use an ambiguous word where perfectly adequate words exist.

"You die after some time"


But by the logic running around in this thread even that would be ambiguous, I mean no where does it say you just fall over dead which seems to be the issue some or most are having. Fatal is fine it is used in a proper context, too often it gets used in place of life-threatening or equivalent phrases/words today.

Edit: Also look at it like this if it was some degen or something then someone out there would find a build that breaks it and then suddenly poof the statement is no longer true and would be more like meh its fatal to most.


"You die" literally means just falling over dead. It's not a lead-up to an event, it's the deadly event itself. The sentence itself does not describe a chain of events with an eventual outcome, it describes the outcome itself.

"Fatal" literally means causing death. It's a lead-up to an event, the death, it's not the event itself. It describes a not further specified chain of events with the eventual outcome of death. It does not describe the death itself.

The difference between "You die" and "fatal" is the difference between "I'm here" and "I'm on the way".


The difference between Fatal and Not fatal is dead and alive.
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Skyforth wrote:
The difference between Fatal and Not fatal is dead and alive.


Actually the difference would be not dead yet but certain to be and not dead yet and certain to remain that way (from whatever fatal was describing).
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Yes "you die" would equal fall over dead but that is not what the quote was now was it? It was "you die after some time" its the after some time part there that causes the ambiguity. I can see players reading that and going so does that mean we get a degen that at some point you will die etc etc. Much like players are doing with the current wording which to me is far less ambiguous.
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