Is Lightning Coil OP?
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I'm confused on if Lightning coil is completely OP. It certainly shows up as one of the top 3 used items in hardcore.
The reason for this is because Physical damage pretty much naturally pierces armor, when taking a ridiculously big hit. So 8k physical damage is going to pretty much kill you, despite your armor, if say you have 6k life, and 10k armor, you'd be left with a 7k hit, and you indeed might die... but with lightning coil 40% of that goes to lightning damage which you're going to reduce by 75%, or 4800 + 800 = 5600 damage taken. So, to live to that 8k hit with armor, you'd need closer to 30k armor, which is not a small amount... Meanwhile, armor suggests as if it reduces a percent of physical damage, that isn't really the true story... Am I wrong? Certainly being one of the top 3 used items in the hardcore league (Beyond) seems to tell a story... The part where I get confused is that lightning damage can shock you, which can cause you take 50% more damage from all sources. So if you get unlucky to be shocked from hit A, and then take the big 8k hit B, well, ouch... Last edited by DragonsProphecy#4593 on Oct 1, 2014, 4:29:29 PM
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" That's why they use Lightning Flasks, which drastically counteract lightning damage. Some builds that use LC have capped lightning resistance, so it's a full 40% reduction to physical damage and lightning damage does absolutely nothing. Lightning Coil is the single best item to increase survivability. |
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TBH i just had one drop and i'm not even sure if it's as good as people make it out to be...sure if you have the right build and a massive over cap in lightning resistance but meh...it'll probably sit in my inventory and gather dust just like my legacy face breakers...op or not
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" Lightning Coil, assuming you have regular lightning resistance, will mitigate 75% of 40% of a physical hit. A total mitigation of 30%. With 100% lightning resistance, it mitigates 40% of all physical damage. It requires a lot of lightning resistance, at least one Topaz Flask, and limits you to red and green sockets, generally. Something like Daresso's Defiance mitigates nothing, but gives you a slightly better chance to avoid hits. Something more beneficial than DD is Cloak of Defiance, as it is technically a 40% mitigation by applying damage to mana before life. No this doesn't actually mitigate the damage, but we're talking about damage to your life. It also requires a mana intensive build, but that isn't hard to do. A better option is Incandescent Heart, which mitigates all elemental damage by 25% if you use Chaos Inoculation. Physical damage is basically nothing due to CWDT, so only elemental damage is a threat. CWDT level 1 + IC + Inc. Dur. + CWS, Incandescent Heart, and CI makes you a very durable character. |
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" Yes, but that 3% becomes less and less useful the bigger the physical hit is. You should note that it says "estimated physical damage reduction". Lightning Coil is not bound by estimation. It gives a flat reduction based on your lightning resistance. This is one reason I'll never use Lightning Coil alone. Endurance Charges each give a flat 4% physical damage reduction. It is possible to get ten of them, if you build around it, and get 40% reduction while getting 40% to elemental resistances. |
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When using lightning coil you should also pay attention to monsters using curses. Being cursed with conductivity/elemental weakness can end pretty badly.
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Yes its OP.
Lightning Coil + Acrobatics/Phase/Ondars and you got a pretty nice defense with low investment. |
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To be honest I don't give a damn about this armour. Sure it's nice to deal vs physical damage, but all my recent deaths (+3 months) were not related to physical damage (not even a single one).
It's about OP spells (flameblast exiles, Atziri spells, etc.) which bring people down.. Personally I prefer a good +100% all res (instead of -60%) chest so I can focus on damage mods on ring etc. |
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not sure if op but homogenizes the game a lot
studying for GGG's C++ technical exam...
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No, Lightning Coil is not "OP". When you build it properly, you take 30-40% less physical damage. Standing around taking less damage doesn't "overpower" your foes, it just enables you to survive more abuse. LC also comes with a severe drawback and does nothing to protect you from elemental damage. Before complaining about a thing that works well at a reasonable cost, you might consider all the truly grotesque pay2win items in the game.
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