ReverendBizzarre: ele cleave templar [6k life, 45k+ dps]

Ive been thinking about playing this build in HC in a group of 3 and im not quite sure what changes I should make to improve my survivability.

My main question was about how important Mana Leech actually is for the build, I dont feel very comfortable without Life Leech in Act 2-3 Merciless and was thinking about making the switch.

My second question was about the build and sacrificing some Ele damage to pick up Unwavering Stance and 2.2% more life regen. I came up with this mess after a day of going back and forth on paths, Im still not 100% on it but I think it has some potential to work.

http://www.pathofexile.com/passive-skill-tree/AAAAAgUBBVuLjOFz7SBG15_fPAXvfIM4FE0Es_AfogACcTKJd-VX4uw4OthN2Ix2GjinhJBVwBpmnvrSNunjah0Uj0bQ0M9lVcaboWe97m_E9iftGS6sqnKpfNnUj7nd8i_vDudSVElfP_ZIjM9QUFhjxtg8Lcautz56uK6Tbqo_JypNFSAs6cS41fjdDVuvGNtDnA6tKaV08SFgQKAFLe9OKLVgiGFSn8v8xWegh3ZKfVb63UZjp_xOnrnEFWBLeu907S3SpldZ8w==

I would be using Determination to make up for the lost armor nodes and to help out my party.
Last edited by Tilan on Feb 4, 2013, 7:34:46 PM
why do you use the 3 +10 str nodes (near to the Savant you picked on the left)
instead of taking 1 +10 further on the left and have 2 additional points to spend?
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Luckyfer wrote:
why do you use the 3 +10 str nodes (near to the Savant you picked on the left)
instead of taking 1 +10 further on the left and have 2 additional points to spend?


Took me a minute to figure out what I was missing but ive got it now, thanks for catching that, ive been really stretched for points with this build already.
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Tilan wrote:
Ive been thinking about playing this build in HC in a group of 3 and im not quite sure what changes I should make to improve my survivability.

My main question was about how important Mana Leech actually is for the build, I dont feel very comfortable without Life Leech in Act 2-3 Merciless and was thinking about making the switch.

My second question was about the build and sacrificing some Ele damage to pick up Unwavering Stance and 2.2% more life regen. I came up with this mess after a day of going back and forth on paths, Im still not 100% on it but I think it has some potential to work.

http://www.pathofexile.com/passive-skill-tree/AAAAAgUBBVuLjOFz7SBG15_fPAXvfIM4FE0Es_AfogACcTKJd-VX4uw4OthN2Ix2GjinhJBVwBpmnvrSNunjah0Uj0bQ0M9lVcaboWe97m_E9iftGS6sqnKpfNnUj7nd8i_vDudSVElfP_ZIjM9QUFhjxtg8Lcautz56uK6Tbqo_JypNFSAs6cS41fjdDVuvGNtDnA6tKaV08SFgQKAFLe9OKLVgiGFSn8v8xWegh3ZKfVb63UZjp_xOnrnEFWBLeu907S3SpldZ8w==

I would be using Determination to make up for the lost armor nodes and to help out my party.


Mana leech is important, thats the support that helps you spam cleave even when you have like 60 mana left from aura reservation. But there is a way you can possibly avoid using it, by getting the soul siphon passive(mana on kill) as another person did with his build, he said it works pretty well for him, maybe it will work for you too and then you can use life leech instead.

You dont really need unwavering stance, i have had no problems with getting stunned.
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One more question Victor.. Why don't you level the cleave to level 5? The mana cost doesn't change the first 5 levels after all.
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Aurell wrote:
One more question Victor.. Why don't you level the cleave to level 5? The mana cost doesn't change the first 5 levels after all.


meh, no reason to, it only adds physical damage, which is useless for me.
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VictorDoom wrote:
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Aurell wrote:
One more question Victor.. Why don't you level the cleave to level 5? The mana cost doesn't change the first 5 levels after all.


meh, no reason to, it only adds physical damage, which is useless for me.


But it costs nothing, and it actually adds a bit to the cleave dps - every number counts! :P
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Aurell wrote:
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VictorDoom wrote:
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Aurell wrote:
One more question Victor.. Why don't you level the cleave to level 5? The mana cost doesn't change the first 5 levels after all.


meh, no reason to, it only adds physical damage, which is useless for me.


But it costs nothing, and it actually adds a bit to the cleave dps - every number counts! :P


I would if i used hatred or some other conversion type gems, items, but since i dont it doesnt provide anything worth while, if you do use hatred yeah its ok to level it up before the mana cost goes up.

fixed the guide btw, there was a bit of a fuckup and i accidentally made everything in bold when i updated the skill tree last night.

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Last edited by VictorDoom on Feb 5, 2013, 3:02:11 PM
nvm found the answer.
Last edited by tribeca76 on Feb 5, 2013, 9:30:19 PM
How do you feel about going for Inner Force? How important are the 10% Weapon Elemental Damage nodes in the center of the tree and the ones near Iron Reflexes? How do you feel about forgoing the increased AoE talents near Witch? How do you feel about going over to Shadow for the 2 attack speed nodes + 2 12% life set of nodes + the 18% mana node?

Thanks in advance.

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