[How To] Ambush Strongbox Farming

Ok just to prevent any comments on it, I'm by no means an expert here and pretty much just want to share this with you guys. But I have done this for a little bit of time now so I have some Experience.
Huge Thanks to Drakier who helped me solve my formating issue :)
Thanks to kopustas for reminding me to format the Thread properly.
If you have any Question/Suggestions, feel free to post them below.

Introduction:
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Some days ago I realized I was getting really bored on farming Maps or Piety or any of the cenventional Stuff. This was when I decided to try out Strongbox Farming, I imagined having some fun while also checking out the new league's special Property to it's fullest extent. After trying out a few different things, especially regarding what Strongboxes to roll I can present to you some very important tips if you want to try it out for yourselfes.
Now the important question: Is it viable for farming currency?
The answer: (Yes) If you are doing Strongbox farming only in an rather low level area it will be very very slow though. But you don't have to ONLY farm currency using this guide you can get the best out of Strongboxes everywhere


Changelog:
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  • cleared up formating thank to kopustas
  • Added Maps as possible farming location @Peterlerock
  • Added your suggestions @Madcow1120
  • Edited the passage accordingly @Gulruon
  • Added a bunch of BBCode for Bulletins and resolved a huge error on my part due to help of Drakier
  • Restructured and rewrote a little bit to make it more of a general Strongbox guide
  • @SkyCore Addded some more locations
  • @super_fluous (reddit) Added rolling +levels on Jeweller's in 70+ Maps
  • @ABM_HeLLsBeLLs I added a little Advanced Crafting guide and rolling Mirrored on Cartographer's boxes


The 4 1/2 "W" questions

What
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  • The basic principle of Strongbox farming is to try and roll good mods on Strongboxes to get the best possible loot out of it. For this here are some basic things about Strongboxes you should know:
  • Strongboxes act just like Items wich means you can use nearly any kind of Currency on it (no Armourer's Scraps, Whetstones, Mirrors
  • Just as a magic Item magic Strongboxes can have 2 Mods: one Prefix (affecting the way the Strongbox behaves, Monsters Spawn/Ice Nova/etc) and one Suffix (wich affects the loot)
  • Likewise for items a rare Strongbox can have 3 Pre- and 3 Suffixes wich can be rolled using Orbs, for this see the advanced Crafting Section


Who
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  • There are no "real" properties your Character MUST fulfil. I would recommend being at least level 62+ to make everything a little faster and safer (for you Invasion guys).
  • The second thing that helps quite a little is having some Increased Item Rarity for getting better Monster Loot (personally I sit at about 170% wich yields decent results).
  • Item Rarity does NOT effect the direct drops from Strongboxes however it DOES effect the spawned monsters
  • For that extra speed I'd recommend having two Quicksilver Flasks (you can roll it with "of Adrenaline" for even more speedy goodness).
  • Last thing is, being able to clear big mob packs really fast, best while running (like Searing Bond, Trapper, etc.) also greatly increases your speed since you will be able to refill your Flaks much more efficiently



Where
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Now this question caused quite a bit of discussion because there are different types of Strongbox Farmers, tips for the specific locations will be added as soon as I have gathered enough information

You can focus on only farming boxes for this I recommend the City of Sarn, since it is by far the easiest to run and find boxes out of all possibilities
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Execution is pretty easy you go into City of Sarn run it along in a little Zig Zaggy line. Use your flasks, if you find a big pack, kill it fast to refill them.

When you reach the Sarn Encampment entrance, go thorugh Ctrl+click and create a new instance, when you reach the other side at the Waypoint port to Sarn Encampment, open the Waypoint there and likewise create a new instance

A little nifty trick is to Leap Slam over the wall near the entrance to the Sarn Encampment.

Because the City of Sarn is only Map level 61 certain Items cannot drop there, see the list here: http://bit.ly/1mVby1t


The second thing you can do is Semi Strongbox/Loot Farming, for this you require a higher level area than City of Sarn for better Drops. The recommendations i've got for that were Sceptre of God and the Library/Archieves

You can go even higher level by running low/mid level Maps (as high as you feel comfortable doing) and get even better loot as well as getting some XP and viable Cartographers Boxes



hoW
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Now this is probably the most interesting part because it includes my (personal and suggested) recommendations for the Strongboxes. If you are looking for Advanced Crafting with Chaos, Vaal Orbs, etc. look into the Advanced Crafting Section

How to roll the Strongbox Mods
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  • Equipment: Orbs of Transmutation, Orbs of Alteration, Orbs of Augmentation, Scolls of Wisdom
  • White Boxes: Use a Transmute on them to make them magic, continue there
  • Blue Boxes: If it is unidentified, use a Wisdom Scroll. Then follow these Steps:Use an Orb of Alteration, if you don't get the mod you want continue using them. Everytime you only get one out of Prefix/Suffix use a Orb of Augmentation. If you are satified with the Mods open the box
  • Rare Boxes: Identify them so you don't get oneshot by Ice Nova/Explosion and then kill everything, for crafting, again see the Advanced Section
  • Unique Boxes: You know, go brag about it and then open they are cool



Arcanist’s Strongbox:
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Currency that does not effect Quality
This is one of the best Strongboxes down the line because you can get all kinds of currency from it, from Chromatics to Mirrors
  • For me the best roll is +addional Items (“of Abundance”) since increasing the amount of Items greatly increases the currency you get. You should try getting a number of 6-8 additional Items.
  • Note: because someone asked it on Reddit, afaik Rarity does NOT effect what currency you get from Arcanist's Strongboxes



Armourer’s Strongbox/Blacksmith's Strongbox:
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Armour/Weapons
Arguably pretty bad Strongboxes since you can only drop weapons and armour from it, there are a few mods though that CAN work
  • ”of Complexity”: 1-2 additional Sockets, Possibility to get a 6 Socket Item that you can vendor for Jewellers
  • ”of Singularity”: Additional Unique Item: Nice mod, but hard to roll (generally takes about 20-40 Alterations), Since you can sell most Uniques for at least 10 Alterations (Maybe Crown of Thorns) you can at least make some money back there
  • (“of Unity”): Contained Items are fully linked: Can work out to give you a 5/6 link but not worth it IMO
  • ”of Quality”: If you happen to get a 20% roll here you can vendor the dropped Items for Whetstones and Armour Scraps, otherwise you can sell Items with a addded Quality of 40 to get Whets/Scraps
  • You can always sell the Rares you get or use them for the Chaos Recipe



Artisan’s Strongbox:
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Currency Affecting Item Quality
Probably my second least favourite Strongbox
  • ”of Abundance”: +additional Items you can get some more of dem Armour Scraps and Whetstones…
  • ”of Treasures”: Increased Rarity: More Rarity increases the likelyhood of getting Glassblowers and GCP’s



Cartographer’s Strongbox:
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Maps
Sadly (well for the sake of not ruining Map drops) outside of Maps you can only drop level 66 Maps so no luck for you here. But if you are inside Maps this is the dream box for every player.
  • Outside Maps: If you happen to get a “of Quality” Box with 20% Quality you can sell the 20% Quality Maps for Chisels, but not try to hardcore roll it
  • In Maps: ALWAYS try to roll +4 or +5 to Chest level (“of Ascendence”) so you will get high level Maps, for going further see advanced crafting
  • You can also roll "of Abundance" to get more items, again aim for a 6+ roll here, but normally you get going a lot better by getting some high level maps and running them, in the process building up your Map base
  • "of Kalandra": this Mod gives you mirrored version of the loot, wich can greatly help to build up your Map pool, especially in lower level Maps when you don't have a lot to run this is viable


Chemist’s Strongbox:
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Flasks
  • Well as if it was hard to guess, this is by far my least favourite one, you really don’t need more flasks… you can decide for yourself if you want to throw a Transmute at it, just run blue and rare Boxes for some extra loot.
  • If you happen to get Quality on a Chemist's Box you can sell the flasks for Glassblower's Baubles (1*20% flask, or multiple flasks with added Quality of 40%


Gemcutter’s Strongbox:
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Gems
Now here is the Box you will normally make the most currency from, and as you would expect it is also the one you find least often. Note that experience with this box seems to be highly debated (again this is mostly my personal opinion)
  • ”of Quality”: Increased Gem Quality This is the mod I always hope to get, if you can roll a 17+ here you can sell most gems for at least 10Chaos (Ambush at least)
  • ”of Facets”: Gems have Experience: Don’t quite as good as Quality (in my opinion) since you can not change how much Exp they get, but you can get a decent amount for some levelled Gems
  • ”of Augmentation”: Drops only Support Gems: You can get some sweet Gems like CwDT, etc. from this mod
  • For me it was as of now always worth sticking with Quality but you can stop at Experience if you want for the Chance to get a lvl 2/3 Empower, and other cool stuff



Jeweller’s Strongbox:
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Accessories (Rings, Amulets, Belts)
Kind of an interesting box since you can actually get some sweet Items from it.
  • ”of Affluence”: 1-3 rare Items: Honestly my only really recommended mod for this box. You can get some good Accessories you can sell, everything else you can use for the Chaos Recipe check: http://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/Vendor_recipes#Multiple_Rare_Items for Informations
  • Reddit suggested: In 70+ Maps, roll +levels and then take the white Jewelry for Alching and hope for good results



Large/Ornate/normal Strongbox:
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Every type of Item
Now to the boring and normal Strongboxes, since nobody knows for sure what Large and Ornate actually do (maybe Increased Quantity/Rarity) I can give no specific tips for that.
  • Not much to say here since it is pretty much the same as Armourer’s and Blacksmith’s so look there, you have the added benefit, that a Quality roll can drop Quality Gems, so this is something to look out for


Advanced Crafting
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I added this due to a lot of suggestions but watch out here since in don't have any expertise on this topic
This Section includes crafting with different types of higher currency (Vaal Orbs, Chaos Orbs, Alc/Scour)

Inventory: Orb of Chance, Vaal Orb, Orb of Alchemy, Orb of Scouring, Regal Orb, Exalted Orb

Chancing Strongboxes:
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You can use Chance Orbs on Cartographer's, Jeweller's and Armourer's Strongbox to try and get their Unique counterpart for Information about these check the Path of Exile Wiki: http://bit.ly/1jGiXCR
  • Jeweller's Strongbox can turn into "Perandus Bank", wich amongst others contains 3 Unique Items, but is guarded by 3 Rogue Exiles!!
  • Cartographer's Strongbox can turn into "Empyrean Apparatus", wich contains 3 Unique Maps
  • Armourer's Strongbox can turn into "Kaom's Cache" from wich you get a guaranteed Kaom's Item but wich is guarded by a pretty strong monster


Regal Magic Strongboxes:
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Pretty straightforward here: if you get a really good roll on a Strongbox (e.g. 20%Quality Gemcutter's) you can Regal it to further improve your loot


Chaos Bombing; Alt/Scouring:
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There are a few Situations where I actually do this: I find a Rare Gemcutter's Box with very bad rolls, or I'm in a high level Map and get a Rare Cartographer's Box in wich case I use some Chaos Orbs to get More Loot from it.
I haven't really tried it out for other boxes but I doubt it will really repay you in most other cases


Exalted Orb:
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Honestly this one is only theory since I dind't try it out yet, but I can't think of any situation where using an Exalted Orb could be worth it, maybe for telling Global you have Balls


Vaal orb:[Spoiler]Now this is an interesting one, Vaal Orbs can Corrupt the Items in the box, altering their Mods but remember this doesn't necessarly have to be good. I got a suggestion from Reddit to add rolling +items and then using a Vaal Orb on Jeweller's boxes for the Chance of getting 6 Mod Jewelry.
As Chris Wilson correctly stated though,
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Surely that's only the portion of them that get the "reroll as rare with six mods" outcome? The ones that get "do nothing" or "change implicit" won't get six mods, right?


End Notes
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If you made it through here congrats, I hope you learned something. Maybe you will try it out maybe not but you can also use the tips for rolling the Strongboxes you find while playing normally. I really hope you enjoyed this little Guide.


Regards
Homados/BurnDemZombies

tl;dr Really... read the topic and then decide if you want to read through it or not no need to shorten it down other than: Much Strongbox, such Wow

Disclaimer:
I don’t take any responsibility for misspellings of any kinds as well as bad english since I’m not a native speaker. Most of the given Information is not verifyable since it is based completely on my own flavour and the scientific method: make a theory, try it out, fail, rinse and repeat.
Last edited by Homados on May 14, 2014 9:38 AM
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Last edited by kopustas on May 13, 2014 6:33 PM
thx a lot was a good read =) , will try it out someday when my 2 weeks guy is high enough level to do this safely =)
Thanks to kopustas for the tip with clearing the formatting up with Spoilers :)
I copied it from my Reddit Post and since they sadly don't support Spoilers I forgot them here.
I'd recommend farming those boxes in maps. As the carto box is by far the strongest one in maps (so strong that I even craft it with Alch/scour or chaos to get my 10+ highlvl maps), but it is also one of the most useless outside of maps.

Pick a map level you can easily handle and farm them there, while also finally burning through your mid/lowlevel map pool.
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I don't recommend wasting too much currency on gemcutters. Now a days I only go for the experience mod and call it a day. It's not even worth trying for the quality mod.

Sometimes you can get lucky and get level 19 gems or level 2 empower so that's nice.
I never get the quality mod on gemcutters. Have tried throwing some chaos at them or alch/scour but doesn't work out.

You can transmute and alt/augment until you get a very good mod then regal if you get something like 17+qual.


Chemist strongboxes are the worst but if you get one with a high quality mod you have glassblower baubles technically.


You forgot to bring Chance orbs in your inventory. White jeweler carto and armorer strongboxes can turn unique.

Vaal Orb. You can vaal a box and everything in it is corrupt. Vaaling chest pieces gives a 1/144 chance to get a 6link. Vaal a box with multiple chest pieces in it and you think you'd up that number. Of course it'd be corrupted but have all pre and suffixes.

Rogue exile mods on boxes can be good if you want extra loot and can handle a random appearance.

Always identify boxes. Always. 1 wisdom is worth the cost. Ice nova or detonate dead at high levels can hurt or even instakill some.
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@kasub: I find rolling Quality is pretty much always worth it
@Madcow1120 I will add your Suggestions ty very much :)

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Last edited by Homados on May 13, 2014 7:24 PM
I stopped reading when you said "if it has a suffix, don't use an aug" or whatever the exact wording is. Rare Monsters and Magic Monsters are both decent additions, and the additional Rogue Exile prefix is better than a lot of suffixes. Its not like augs are expensive....
You are right I actually use Augments on those myself^^ will rewrite it

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