When is Abyssus' damage factored in

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Namcap wrote:

Does it come after armor reduction or before any mitigation is applied?

After. Modifiers to the amount of Damage Taken always apply after mitigation.
The Attackers modifiers to damage (dealt) are applied to work out the base damage of the hit, then the defender's armour/resistances/other mitigation are applied to this to work out damage taken. This value is then affected by any and all modifiers to damage taken.

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777isHARDCORE wrote:

How does this work with Lightning Coil? Does that mean Lightning Coil's conversion effect happens after all mitigation, meaning no mitigation from lightning res?

That's why I explicitly said

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Mark_GGG wrote:

Modifiers to the amount of Damage Taken always apply after mitigation.

X% of Physical Damage taken as Lightning, and similar modifiers, are not modifying the amount of damage taken, which is a value determined after mitigation, but how that mitigation applies. They effectively kick in just before mitigation, since that's the only way they'd have any effect, and thus change how you take the damage, and thus how the base value of "damage taken" is arrived at after mitigation, which is then modified by increased/reduced damage taken modifiers.

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bilun wrote:

Very interesting- pretty much everyone was wrong about this.

For the record, this is far from the first time this has been posted on the forum - in the mechanics thread and in several places asking for information. Certainly some people have known this for a long time.