General Discussion - Is PoE Pay to win? - Forum

For Pay2Win you mean pay to get a overpowered gear and level up easy just because you paid? if yes, no, this game is not pay2win. You can't buy Weapons or something like that for real money, same for levels. You only buy cosmetic items like tf2 hats.	Posted by PanicW#5509 on Dec 28, 2013, 4:07:39 PM Quote this Post
" Zalm wrote: " WShinikaru wrote: I'll try to make this quick. The only thing you can argue is P2W about this game is the stash tabs. RMT is illegal. It is something that can get you banned. You are not allowed to do it. If you do it, you are breaking the rules. Now that we've established that, calling the game P2W because of something that people are not allowed to do is nothing short of asinine. I hate stating something and then following up with "I'm right, you're wrong, end of discussion", because that is a horrible and childish way to debate a topic. However, there simply is nothing to debate here (unless its about stash tabs). You cannot call a game P2W based around an illegal practice. Exactly, because with that logic, I'm allowed to kill people in the US. I could be jailed if I get caught, but otherwise, I'm allowed to kill as many and as often as I want. Its a rather extreme example, but that does seem to be the kind of logic being used. There has been a handful of people carrying similar views popping up lately, and I just can't get behind such logic.	Posted by WShinikaru#1079 on Dec 28, 2013, 4:08:41 PM Quote this Post
Sometimes, when dealing with people who dont understand common sense, you have to use extreme examples in order to get a point across, otherwise, they dont seem to connect the dots. 'It is good to contact a moderator if you feel someone is being a twat' Charan, Forum Moderator Sometimes, we have to cross a ditch. Sometimes, we have to cross an ocean.-Rhys, GGG	Posted by Zalm#4445 on Dec 28, 2013, 4:11:01 PM Quote this Post
" _Lightshard_ wrote: " reimur wrote: stash tabs are in fact p2w They arent, you can create a shitload of chars and use them as stash, its not cool, but it works. Tabs are a upgrade to make things easier, but after all, you wont need it to get everything what the game can offer. They are. You can farm 100 exalts for a few years and then buy gear you need. You can use rares that dropped for that. Its not cool, but it works. You can go and buy 100 exalts for $ and trade gear you need. RMT is not pay to win, its a upgrade to make things easier. But after all you don't need to have 100 exalts worth gear to get what the game can offer. Stash tabs ARE pay to win, no matter how hard you don't like this fact.	Posted by maxkardinal#4987 on Dec 28, 2013, 4:40:48 PM Quote this Post
" maxkardinal wrote: " _Lightshard_ wrote: " reimur wrote: stash tabs are in fact p2w They arent, you can create a shitload of chars and use them as stash, its not cool, but it works. Tabs are a upgrade to make things easier, but after all, you wont need it to get everything what the game can offer. They are. You can farm 100 exalts for a few years and then buy gear you need. You can use rares that dropped for that. Its not cool, but it works. You can go and buy 100 exalts for $ and trade gear you need. RMT is not pay to win, its a upgrade to make things easier. But after all you don't need to have 100 exalts worth gear to get what the game can offer. Stash tabs ARE pay to win, no matter how hard you don't like this fact. TIL RMT is not p2w, but stash tabs are. My fucking sides. GGG banning all political discussion shortly after getting acquired by China is a weird coincidence.	Posted by Xavderion#3432 on Dec 28, 2013, 4:46:39 PM Quote this Post
" Xavderion wrote: TIL RMT is not p2w, but stash tabs are. My fucking sides. Some people just don't have what it takes.	Posted by maxkardinal#4987 on Dec 28, 2013, 4:49:35 PM Quote this Post
" Xavderion wrote: TIL RMT is not p2w, but stash tabs are. My fucking sides. Its fine. You can let these people think whatever they like. If it was pay to win, GGG wouldnt sell them. They CLEARLY have in their game description as well as their company motto that they dont do pay to win. Its pretty simple, you can pay to win and get banned, or you can pay for luxury and ease. If stash tabs period were buyable, as in you didnt have ANY and could only get stash from a purchase, then it would be pay to win. But as it stands, everyone gets stash tabs. There is no pay to win if everyone has them. 'It is good to contact a moderator if you feel someone is being a twat' Charan, Forum Moderator Sometimes, we have to cross a ditch. Sometimes, we have to cross an ocean.-Rhys, GGG Last edited by Zalm#4445 on Dec 28, 2013, 4:55:59 PM	Posted by Zalm#4445 on Dec 28, 2013, 4:55:35 PM Quote this Post
On topic: It isn't P2W On RMT: Their existence doesn't make the game p2w - your paranoia over the game being controlled by RMT sites doesn't make it p2w. "the premier Action RPG for hardcore gamers." -GGG Happy hunting/fishing	Posted by Wittgenstein#0994 on Dec 28, 2013, 4:58:36 PM Alpha Member Quote this Post
So many people have no idea what P2W means. So sad. That said, this game is not P2W at all, under any real definition of the term. Anyone who says otherwise has no grasp of what it means and they are butthurt because they can't get godly items in 5 minutes. "Danger is like jello, there's always room for more." http://www.twitch.tv/vejita00	Posted by CliveHowlitzer#0568 on Dec 28, 2013, 5:02:32 PM Quote this Post
" maxkardinal wrote: " _Lightshard_ wrote: " reimur wrote: stash tabs are in fact p2w They arent, you can create a shitload of chars and use them as stash, its not cool, but it works. Tabs are a upgrade to make things easier, but after all, you wont need it to get everything what the game can offer. They are. You can farm 100 exalts for a few years and then buy gear you need. You can use rares that dropped for that. Its not cool, but it works. You can go and buy 100 exalts for $ and trade gear you need. RMT is not pay to win, its a upgrade to make things easier. But after all you don't need to have 100 exalts worth gear to get what the game can offer. Stash tabs ARE pay to win, no matter how hard you don't like this fact. Any chance you can retype that to make your point a bit more clear? I think you tried to coat the post with so much sarcasm that your actual argument got buried.	Posted by WShinikaru#1079 on Dec 28, 2013, 5:31:32 PM Quote this Post