Mind over Matter

Why put points into mana nodes to make Mind over Matter work when you can put those points into life nodes and achieve better results (less point investment)? I see how this could've been cool for evasion chars and casters due to one shots but right now this passive is useless. New %based aura reservation, in this case, mekes thing even worse btw.

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Y156112 wrote:

Why put points into mana nodes to make Mind over Matter work when you can put those points into life nodes and achieve better results (less point investment)? I see how this could've been cool for evasion chars and casters due to one shots but right now this passive is useless. New %based aura reservation, in this case, mekes thing even worse btw.

I don't know, I see some possibility with stacking Mind over Matter with Eldritch Battery, Pain Attunement, reduced mana reservation nodes, and stacked auras.

Well, good luck connecting 2 sides of the tree. I was planning to build evasion/dodge archer with Mind over Matter being some sort of defence against those heavy hits but I failed to see ligic behind this keystone.

I'm with you OP. I originally wanted to do a FP scion utilizing EB and MoM but it wouldn't leave me with enough life to be survivable even with 30% of the damage going to mana. I'd essentially have minimal armor and evasion with a 4k life pool. And I wouldn't even be able to run more than one protective aura on top of clarity.

Anyone thinking about making a survivable EB + MoM character is going to have to sacrifice some damage.

I've done it with my templar and it's faaaaabuloooooous, yup with eldrich battery means you can guess what run arctic armor all daay woooo that's some damage reduction

Yeah I could see just going EB, getting mind over matter, arctic armor, and then just run EK with a tank build. Seems legit to me.

Also, there are now life&mana nodes around which are pretty crazy strong. Only lose 2% life compared to a pure life node to gain 8% mana.

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KaTet wrote:

Yeah I could see just going EB, getting mind over matter, arctic armor, and then just run EK with a tank build. Seems legit to me.

Which is pretty much exactly the Scion I've been building.

And yes, it's beautiful :)

is EK really that strong?

Maybe I should give that a go.

Currently I'm running MoM + EB + AA with infernal blow, but I guess I could go EK with minimal problems.

This passive always seems so good in theory, then when I actually use it its just pointless. I did an EB/artic armor/high mana regen build (like 300% mana regen or so). and the big problem with the skill is when you do eventually get hit down to 1% mana, its very hard to get it back up even with insane mana regen. If 10 rhoas charge you over and over again and you're stuck at 1% mana the whole time not being able to cast it can be really annoying. So yea maybe I just don't know how to build around this passive but to me its good in theory but to actually make it work successfully you need to invest sooo much mana regen and if you're doing that you might as well just run arctic armour which is a better investment overall than this passive. And to run both I think its near impossible.

But yea just my opinion, maybe other people have found ways to make it work but I can't.

Edit- and I'm talking in end game 70+ maps, obviously if you're just farming random stuff and barely getting hit for anything then this wont make a difference, but when the mobs are hitting you for a ton in maps it can be very problematic once you do drop below a certain mana threshold.