Zealot's Oath + Vaal Pact + health regeneration

How do these interact? Can you still regenerate energy shield from health regeneration using Zealot's Oath if you also have Vaal Pact?

With Vaal Pact you have no life regeneration, thus nothing to convert.

Pretty sure Vaal Pact will act first, making your health regen 0, so there is nothing to convert into ES regen.

Haven't actually gone out of my way to test it, just my assumption.

The wording on these skills are not really ideal.

For example, ZO does not convert your Life Regeneration to ES Regeneration. It applies your regen nodes to energy shield. This isn't inherently wrong, but it has two meanings.
The nodes are themselves called "Life Regeneration" but the actual regeneration is also called "Life Regeneration". It doesn't specify whether your life regen number is converted to an es regen number, or whether your life regen nodes are converted to es regen nodes.

It's not that it's difficult to understand, it's the fact that it's not as super-literal and excplicit in what it does like everything else is.


Vaal pact also says life recovery FROM regeneration, not specifically life regeneration. In a literal sense (which is how PoE likes to be taken and how it words things), that simply means that if your regen gives you life it does not apply, but if its giving ES or Mana, it would.

I've said before that ZO has wording issues, but everybody just said "you're too stupid to understand it". I understand that you can understand these things when you think about it a bit, but it doesn't follow the hyperliteral wording that everything else uses.

People seem to think that my complaints about these are because im 'too stupid' to understand it, and ignore the fact that it's all about being consistent with the literal wording that PoE uses.




And here's the real thing i don't understand: How would clarifying these things to fit the way everything else is worded hurt your gameplay experience? Why are people so adamant on arguing over an objectively positive change?

ZO applies consistently to life regeneration wording when you replace every instance of "life" with "energy shield". It's totally consistent.

I've edited my previous post to correctly explain the issues.

That's true. No ZO + VP possible.

I wonder how Shavronne's Revelation + Vaal Pact works tho, since it's pure ES reggen on the ring, no life -> ES reg conversion.

There isn't a clearer wording that wouldn't take an entire page of text to explain. As it stands it does literally what it says. A life regeneration node has the text

"1% of life regenerated per second"

ZO replaces any instance of "life" with "energy shield" (life regeneration replies to energy shield), and so that text becomes.

"1% of ES regenerated per second"

Because the +regen isn't a flat amount. Vaal is mildly unclear, but it's not that hard to expect it to behave in the same way other effects do, shich is to say to be consistent with application of other keystones. You no longer regenerate life, it multiplies life regeneration by 0.

i tried it, it doesnt work, you cant regen.

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There isn't a clearer wording that wouldn't take an entire page of text to explain.

Not even remotely close to anything resembling the truth.

Zealot's Oath
Life Regeneration and "Life Regeneration" nodes are instead applied to Energy Shield.

Vaal Pact
Life Regeneration, "Life Regeneration" nodes and life recovery from flasks have no effect.
Life Leech applies instantly.


EDIT: There's another thing with ZO. By life regen it could be "Life Regeneration", the node, it could be your characters Life Regeneration being converted, and then there's the question as to if it's the first one, does that mean that ONLY "Life Regeneration" nodes apply or does it also apply to flat regen from gear and vitality, neither of which are "Life Regeneration" nodes.

Specifying it like i have above completely negates any questions about what the keystones do, and how they interact with each other. It makes it clear that there is nothing left to apply to energy shield with ZO.