Stun treshold reduction.

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Glowyrm wrote:

Putting on an item that reduces the stun threshold is great and all, but I can't actually see that change, so maybe I can't theorycraft out some other decisions, or maybe I take it off because I don't fully understand what adding that modifier just did for me.

Regarding noob-friendliness the stun mechanics are extremely frustrating on my melee Ranger. In Maps if I face 3 or 4 Chaos Spitters, I can see my Cleave animation going, and it feels like the game is lagging or I don't know what the hell is going on but I get pummeled, I'm not life leeching anything or doing much of any damage. I have 2700 Life atm and DR% is above 30%.

I know it's a bit low but still: there IS NO STUN ANIMATION. I don't know waht the hell you guys are talking about. I've never seen a stun animation in this game. All that happens is I feel like my character skills are not registered by the game. No feedback, nothing. I don't know at what moment stun begins or when it ends.

The Devs say there is a stun animation -> There is a stun animation

The stun animation is the short (350ms or about a third of a second by default) "reeling" animation that interrupts attacks and casts. If you're looking for stars or birds circling around the heads of whatever is stunned, you're probably playing the wrong game.

This is what it looks like in action (and also a completely shameless link to one of my youtube vids): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8bTc37rLuyg

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I recently discovered that game too ;P

Stuns
Whenever a player or monster takes damage, there is a chance they will be stunned. A stun interrupts whatever that creature was doing while a brief animation is played. The default length of stuns is 350ms. The duration of stuns can be altered by reduced block and stun recovery, increased stun duration, and similar modifiers.

The formula used for determining whether or not a stun occurs is:
stun_chance = 200 * damage / defender_effective_max_life

Where defender_effective_max_life is the maximum life of the creature being hit. Increases to monster life from a party of more than one player do not affect defender_effective_max_life.
For a player with Chaos Inoculation, their defender_effective_max_life is whatever their max life would be if they did not have Chaos Inoculation.
Reduced stun threshold modifiers reduce the value of defender_effective_max_life. For example, 25% stun threshold reduction means you treat their maximum life as only 75% as much as it actually is, meaning you stun them easier.

If the stun chance would be less than or equal to 25%, it's ignored, so you need to deal more than 12.5% of effective maximum life to have a chance to stun.




Taken straight from the mechanics thread just for giggles.

I think new users will find that equation misleading as it's unsure as to whether the equation returns a percentage already or not:

"chance_to_stun = 200*damage/max_life" would mean that dealing only 0.5% of an enemies max life would give 100% chance to stun. Is that intended?

200*(0.5%*max_life)/max_life = 200*(0.5%) = 100%.

I think the equation means:

"percentage_chance_to_stun = 200*damage/max_life".

Dealing with percentages is always confusing unless it's made explicit whether the resulting calculation returns something that's already a percentage or something that still needs converting to a percentage (dividing by 100).

The complete equation with threshold reduction would be:

"percentage_chance_to_stun = 200*damage/((1-threshold_reduction/100)*effective_max_enemy_life)"

Is there a maximum threshold reduction?

I think that part of the confusion here is simply that "stun threshold reduction" is misleading.


It doesnt reduce the threshold. It increases the effective damage for stunning purposes.