Severe lack of balance once again ruining the game

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sidtherat#1310 wrote:

mageblood is stupid mostly because it is so universal that any build with flexible belt slot should use it and builds with fixed belt slot should actually reconsider

So it's stupid because it's just a good chase item which a good and universal use case? If anything that's peek design of what a chase item should look like, something every build could use if they want to.
"Is stuipd" reads more like some high level of fomo than anything else.

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sidtherat#1310 wrote:

and the most obnoxious part of it is the Mageblood Orb - currency item with sole purpose of getting 70% effect on an utility flask. a currency with one use case.

One use case? You could throw the extra effect on many unique utility flasks to gain more benefits out of them for whenever you use them, such as during boss fights.

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sidtherat#1310 wrote:

remove that enchant from mageblooded flask and then, maybe, mageblood might be fine. still 10/10 betl, still everyoune would want it, but not as dumb

Of course players will continue to aim for powerful chase items.

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sidtherat#1310 wrote:

Mageblood IS stupid

Nay.

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Celestriad#0304 wrote:

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MrEpic#2507 wrote:

You should learn how to think first before you share your opinions

This goes both ways.

On topic:

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MrEpic#2507 wrote:

Moreover, Ephemeral Edge and Mageblood still aren't nerfed, making it a tier 0 unique is not a nerf lol, this is becoming honestly embarassing, do you even have anyone working at GGG who takes care of the game's balance?

They're both fine and no nerfs are needed.

Care to explain how my logic is wrong?

Ofc not you are the ultimate toxic troll of feedback and discussion

EE and MB are both fine and balanced through their rarity.

IMO making an item T0 doesnt affect its balance

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MrEpic#2507 wrote:

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Celestriad#0304 wrote:

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MrEpic#2507 wrote:

You should learn how to think first before you share your opinions

This goes both ways.

On topic:

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MrEpic#2507 wrote:

Moreover, Ephemeral Edge and Mageblood still aren't nerfed, making it a tier 0 unique is not a nerf lol, this is becoming honestly embarassing, do you even have anyone working at GGG who takes care of the game's balance?

They're both fine and no nerfs are needed.

Care to explain how my logic is wrong?

Ofc not you are the ultimate toxic troll of feedback and discussion

There's no distinctive logic in your post. It reads like fomo.

Both EE and MB are balanced through their rarity. They're called chase uniques. Side note for you, while powerful, they're not breaking the game on their own.

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MrEpic#2507 wrote:

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Celestriad#0304 wrote:

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MrEpic#2507 wrote:

You should learn how to think first before you share your opinions

This goes both ways.

On topic:

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MrEpic#2507 wrote:

Moreover, Ephemeral Edge and Mageblood still aren't nerfed, making it a tier 0 unique is not a nerf lol, this is becoming honestly embarassing, do you even have anyone working at GGG who takes care of the game's balance?

They're both fine and no nerfs are needed.

Care to explain how my logic is wrong?

Ofc not you are the ultimate toxic troll of feedback and discussion

I already explained how your logic is wrong, all you have to do now is to accept that. You shouldn't call others toxic trolls after resorting to personal attacks the moment you run out of arguments. It's like throwing stones while sitting in a glass house.

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Pashid#4643 wrote:

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sidtherat#1310 wrote:

mageblood is stupid mostly because it is so universal that any build with flexible belt slot should use it and builds with fixed belt slot should actually reconsider

So it's stupid because it's just a good chase item which a good and universal use case? If anything that's peek design of what a chase item should look like, something every build could use if they want to.
"Is stuipd" reads more like some high level of fomo than anything else.

i find it amazing that you can use 'fomo' in every post and use it as an argument!


regarding your definition of good chase unique - in my opinion, it is the exact worst example of well designed chase unique

it is an item that is unquestionably best in slot, no drawback, no discussion
if it was an vendor item available from lvl1 EVERYONE would use it. this, even by GGG words, is a sh.. design

the only balancing factor it has is rarity. you numb-farm some content for a week or few days, you buy it. the balancing factor is gone, it is pure power now.


here are some more examples of 'well designed' chase items (by your definition):

Jewel of Immortality - you cannot die
Ring of Millions of Gold - every mob drops 1m gold pile
Krangled AOE Support - 1000% more AOE
Vergut Projectiles - your skill fire all the projectiles

all balanced by rarity, with Div card you can gamble and a handy cheeze Valdo map to print these out (both actually make this situation even worse)


Mageblood is not THAT stupid, but it is actually close enough to make a point

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sidtherat#1310 wrote:

i find it amazing that you can use 'fomo' in every post and use it as an argument!

Cause fomo is more than often the problem for some, and I can also see it her being the problem. "I can't have a mageblood so others are not allowed to have such items". Cause if we're talking about balance here mb on it's own won't give you a powerful character. It's just a pwoerful source to min-max even further, but by you already trivialize all content by the time you have one so not like ti matters.
EE and the foulborn items are another example, they are not powerful on their own, but powerful if you combine them with well optimized gear, and if a player gets to the stage it's just well deserved power. You're just sour that you don't get the same power for free.

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sidtherat#1310 wrote:

regarding your definition of good chase unique - in my opinion, it is the exact worst example of well designed chase unique

By definition it's a good design since it's universal and can be used for almost every build, or you could simply skip and still be fine.
A bad chase unique be an item that has little to no use case outside of maybe a single niche build.

Your drawback is that you have to invest a larger amount currency for the single item, and you could use the same amount of currency to deck out all of your slots, or well if you're interested enough do both.
By your logic every "BiS" should be bad and in this case every single item is bad as it could potentially be BiS for one build.

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sidtherat#1310 wrote:

the only balancing factor it has is rarity. you numb-farm some content for a week or few days, you buy it. the balancing factor is gone, it is pure power now.

Well deserved power if you put so much dedication into farming one since it's not totally free, else the fomo wouldn't be as heavy.

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sidtherat#1310 wrote:

here are some more examples of 'well designed' chase items (by your definition):

Jewel of Immortality - you cannot die
Ring of Millions of Gold - every mob drops 1m gold pile
Krangled AOE Support - 1000% more AOE
Vergut Projectiles - your skill fire all the projectiles

weird take to compare a powerful item with downright broken ideas, but it's not remotely close how I defined it, so try harder.

yea bro thinks fomo is a valid argument in any and all situations lol

I have been farming a ton since league start, if i really wanted mageblood I could have one or two by this point but I want to improve at this game instead of being carried by shit that will just inevitably get nerfed the moment devs finally wake up from their dunken stupor (hopium), this has absolutely nothing to do with fomo.

Same reason why I'm not making the latest cheater build int stack accuracy stack jugg that can easily do 100m dps and tank 2.5x uber memory games for absolutely no reason