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DeathDiciple wrote:
I dunno about you people, but where I live, if you buy a stolen car it WILL be removed from you regardless if you even knew the seller stole it or not
Right, because this is a totally comparable situation. Please, explain how you are going to remove the 'stolen car' in this analogy.
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Posted byaimlessgun#1443on May 20, 2013, 7:27:07 PMAlpha Member
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if i get accused of something i didnt commit and if GGG proves me innocent.
ill charge against those who accused and demand a ban.
that is just me tho.
if you wanna take a hard road, be prepared for hard return.
that's why i said , do it behind the scene and keep it secret. for the safety of both party
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Posted byDudebag#0222on May 20, 2013, 7:29:16 PM
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Posted byDudebag#0222on May 20, 2013, 7:29:44 PM
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kiorull wrote:
GGG has nothing to win financially from this whole thing. If their sole purpose was money they would cave in and made the game more casual.
So, if their investigations will reveal cheating I am sure they will ban the respective accounts.
On the other hand, if it doesn't, I am expecting GGG and forum moderators to apply heavy forum bans for all those that accused/insulted/defamed said people. Taking all the threads, post by post, insult by insult and banning with an iron hand. I would also ban the instigators as well.
Till this moment I didn't see any actual proof, only butthurt comments, anonymous "confessions" and sheep mentality.
I don't really care what happened, just want to see this forum cleaned of garbage, whoever the garbage turns out to be. Enough is enough, so much whining, complaining, drama and trolling in an excellent free game by some excellent developers.
^This ! I am gonna quote you everywhere! thanks for the welle written comment.
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Posted byInexium#6388on May 20, 2013, 7:33:20 PM
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kiorull wrote:
GGG has nothing to win financially from this whole thing. If their sole purpose was money they would cave in and made the game more casual.
So, if their investigations will reveal cheating I am sure they will ban the respective accounts.
On the other hand, if it doesn't, I am expecting GGG and forum moderators to apply heavy forum bans for all those that accused/insulted/defamed said people. Taking all the threads, post by post, insult by insult and banning with an iron hand. I would also ban the instigators as well.
Till this moment I didn't see any actual proof, only butthurt comments, anonymous "confessions" and sheep mentality.
I don't really care what happened, just want to see this forum cleaned of garbage, whoever the garbage turns out to be. Enough is enough, so much whining, complaining, drama and trolling in an excellent free game by some excellent developers.
^This ! I am gonna quote you everywhere! thanks for the welle written comment.
What is the point of forum banning accounts when it is free to make a new one? That is completely pointless.
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Posted bythepmrc#0256on May 20, 2013, 7:42:09 PM
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Because no one cares about new accounts comments.. a good troll must have a known account name fake some good commments and then TROLL ! And try to save his account with sentences like : What's the point of banning of accounts when it is free to make a new one?( i may be wrong for that last part ).
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Posted byInexium#6388on May 20, 2013, 7:52:32 PM
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Sounds like someone's jealous he didn't get first. A man is always innocent before proven guilty.
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Posted bytinghshi#7226on May 20, 2013, 7:59:14 PM
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Does GGG care about people using d2jsp?
Does GGG care enough to do anything much less ban people for it?
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Posted byNephalim#2731on May 20, 2013, 8:06:17 PM
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Does GGG care about people using d2jsp?
Does GGG care enough to do anything much less ban people for it?
They don't like it, but as I keep saying, there is no clear correlation between using jsp and outright RMTing. It's just really hard to prove, and Chris is precisely the sort of person to adhere to 'innocent until proven guilty' almost to a maddening degree.
So this isn't about 'care' and you'd do well to drop that line of thinking.
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Posted byForeverhappychan#4626on May 20, 2013, 8:12:01 PMAlpha Member
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CharanJaydemyr wrote:
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tinghshi wrote:
Sounds like someone's jealous he didn't get first. A man is always innocent before proven guilty.
Actually, no, plenty of guilty men have been guilty before being proven guilty. Their guilt just hadn't been proven at that point. What you've said is that if we can't prove someone guilty, they are innocent. This is not an absolute truth. They may or may not have still done the crime.
That's not the same as 'innocent until proven guilty', which works under the assumption that people are innocent until sufficient evidence can be found to the contrary. This is to ensure everyone has a fair trial. It is not in any way a suggestion that guilt lies only in proof.
Guilt is in the deed, proven or otherwise.
But this isn't about guilt. It's about punishment.
Ahh, of course, but that would require us knowing the truth, which is something mankind has yet to master. Before we reach that point, the only thing we can rely on is the proof, and "innocent until proven guilty" is the best assumption we can make using the proof.
The fact of the matter is that there is no incriminating evidence against Havoc. We have no idea what he did to accomplish what he did, and hunches and paranoia isn't enough to prove anything.
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Posted bytinghshi#7226on May 20, 2013, 8:21:23 PM
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