Trade Site Bug - Has Zero Influences returns no results

https://www.pathofexile.com/trade/search/Affliction/eMdObp4uL

If you choose Pseudo Has # influences and set the max to zero the search always returns no results. Turn off the influences part of the query and you can see results including boots without influence.
Last bumped on Apr 25, 2024, 1:13:24 AM
https://www.pathofexile.com/trade/search/Affliction/Zy74LpzUQ

The boots you were looking for don't have a "# of influences" pseudo modifier, so they weren't matching the search that looking for items with that pseudo modifier, even though it looks like it should work.
don't use 0 in searches.
use a not filter instead

https://www.pathofexile.com/trade/search/Affliction/V2WVy4gfp
Yes that is a workaround, but the above posting is still a bug.
It's consistent with values that can go negative. Life (Echoforge), Maximum elemental resistance (Leadership), etc all have negative values so the same syntax works for max 0 to find them.

You can't have negative influence or an item with an influence value of zero (different from not influenced, which is the working search), so it doesn't work. Same negative search applies to attributes and a few others that I randomly tried.. no results found because there are no negatives of those attributes.
OK So all those other consistent examples are wrong as well then.
The pseudo-stat only exists on items with at least one influence, so this behaviour is correct.
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Principle of least surprise. The technical stuff is technically correct, but the behaviour is not what a user would expect.
If I made a search for "Not" group: has # influences
And that search gave me results with influences instead, I'd be confused instead.
Saying that the current behaviour is more confusing than the alternative is a matter of subjective opinion.
Last edited by bidoblub on Mar 25, 2024, 11:20:04 PM
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bidoblub wrote:
If I made a search for "Not" group: has # influences
And that search gave me results with influences instead, I'd be confused instead.
Saying that the current behaviour is more confusing than the alternative is a matter of subjective opinion.


It's not either / or.

If I search for min/max influences and choose 1-1 I expect 1 influence on all results. If I select 0-0 I expect 0 influences on all results, not having no results at all. The wording is conflating a count of influences with a binary of having influences. If the wording was something like "has influences and influence count is x" then the current behaviour makes sense.

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