Harvest needs a big nerf for next league.

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loardpcm wrote:

Are you high? This whole thread is about harvest and crafting. People use TFT discord to get the crafts they want and complain that it is to easy to get something. You sound like i opened a random pornhub link and asked about cheese.

And yes i agree my wording could have been better but english is not my first language. I'm sorry for that.

I'll actually go play the game now. Have a nice day.

Because what you wrote was stupid, and the edit is still stupid.

So tft is making things easier to trade harvest crafts, and your idea is urge people to not use it? HELLO? Yes um let me just shoot myself in the foot because a rando ass guy on the forums said not to look up third party websites and discords....

And here's the thing ok. tft isnt the reason why people think harvest crafting is easy. It's just a resource you can and SHOULD use in trade league. The ssf guys are still making amazing shit by themselves. Because the actual mechanic is broken af. And a bunch of these ssf guys were also playing wow so they werent even nolifing as hard this time around.

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yamface wrote:

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loardpcm wrote:

Are you high? This whole thread is about harvest and crafting. People use TFT discord to get the crafts they want and complain that it is to easy to get something. You sound like i opened a random pornhub link and asked about cheese.

And yes i agree my wording could have been better but english is not my first language. I'm sorry for that.

I'll actually go play the game now. Have a nice day.

Because what you wrote was stupid, and the edit is still stupid.

So tft is making things easier to trade harvest crafts, and your idea is urge people to not use it? HELLO? Yes um let me just shoot myself in the foot because a rando ass guy on the forums said not to look up third party websites and discords....

I agree it was stupid. Have a nice day rando ass dude.

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yamface wrote:

And here's the thing ok. tft isnt the reason why people think harvest crafting is easy. It's just a resource you can and SHOULD use in trade league. The ssf guys are still making amazing shit by themselves. Because the actual mechanic is broken af. And a bunch of these ssf guys were also playing wow so they werent even nolifing as hard this time around.

I already posted that adding more affixes with the same tags would imho solve these problems. I totall agree that you should not be able to get a specific craft by only using one e.g. add caster target exalt. Adding more caster tags there would not quarantee you that outcome.

In this thread, people whining they can no longer abuse trade to make tons of money and players are crafting their own items.

For GGG, consider whether people enjoyed paying others for items more or crafting them themselves.

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yamface wrote:

It's 2021 bud you're clinging onto a decade old project. But for anyone curious crafting was easier during this time because ex was only 15-20c and there were way less mods to get in the way.

This.
Old way of "crafting" is way outdated and benefits super rich people only.

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Harvest needs a big nerf for next league.

You mis-spelled buff there, silly :)
It should read

"Harvest needs a big buff for next league."
They need to increase the 10 uses storage limit

I'm not masochist, this game is entertainment for me, i want to play with op items, i want to kill bosses in fews sec, i want to facetank , i want to clear maps in 120 sec, , i want etc etc.Harvest gives me this opportunity, that's all i have to say.

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Pessimist_x wrote:

I'm not masochist, this game is entertainment for me, i want to play with op items, i want to kill bosses in fews sec, i want to facetank , i want to clear maps in 120 sec, , i want etc etc.Harvest gives me this opportunity, that's all i have to say.

Yeah same for me. Iam really happy with the nerfs and i can still craft more things then i would with the basic crafting system.
Trading is still a thing and yes i agree with OP harvest does make some things less expensive.
At the other hand harvest like it is atm does open a lot of doors for casual players and even more, SSF players.

For me personally it doesnt ruin the game, but iam not the guy who is able to trade mirror tier items. So i cant really judge objectively on that part of your point.

What are you suggesting OP? Making Harvest soulbound?
Iam just wondering.

People can rot in that discord if they want.. it's their choice. But harvest in the current form is garbage.

RNG to find it.
More RNG to get decent crafts.

Can't sell or buy because insanely high risk of scammers.

If they make harvest crafting "account bound" then buff harvest and kill trade in general for good let people sell bases then.

Or might as well leave it be and keep it on the shit status and people will still rot on that discord.

I feel a bit bad for legit people trying to sell harvest but can't because there's a cyber wall that they need to cross first in order to sell their things.

People who are against harvest have a very short memory or conveniently forget that in previous leagues crafting your final weapon was even easier.

All you needed to do was buy a chosen base, alt spam it for one mod (most times also annull) and then bench craft the rest



I hope that they keep harvest as it is. Especially because all previous crafts and various uniques have been nerfed to enable harvest.

I see nothing wrong if friggin alkaizer crafts some 3x t1 weapon IN SSF.
It is only a positive that good crafted gear is available to be made by a wider audience and not gated behind pure gambling + RMT like exalt spam that is 100x more wasteful.

TFT is actually what impressed me and the best "player interaction" that I had in poe that went farther than the "ty" or the zoom zoom who are you? beachhead map party.
It is the best attempt i saw in poe at an organized global community with rules and automated systems for vouching and blacklisting, all to enable every service you can think of.

I suggest you to try it if you are not SSF.
It is not as easy as you make it look, you may have 10/10 harvest crafts or i dont know 100 guardian maps to sell, but you need to get in there and sell your things bazaar style.

That means find a buyer that trusts you, and it takes time especially if you have 0 vouches and still dont have trusted colors.
This goes the opposite direction as well, when you want to start improving your gear and your items start being worth more than a couple exalts you will want to spend more time to find or more exalts to spend for a more trusted source.

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_Daybit_ wrote:

No, it should be kept as it is, with Horticrafting limit being increased to 20.

Harvest finally made craft feeling like something worth time. Before Harvest craft was available only to abusers with 5000+ex, and this was really bad (there should not be anything in the game which costs more than 100ex in my opinion, because you cannot get 5000ex unless you abuse something hidden).

OMEGALUL now people make 10000 ex because they corner perfect bases, copy them and finish them off with perfect harvest crafts easily.
But as someone said earlier this discussion is probably pointless as the 2 sides basically play a 99% different game.

That's been in PoE for a long time and it's due to beastcrafting. In other leagues, including myself, people simply multimodded these items before selling them. Nothing to do with Harvest.

If they're able to make a couple of mirrors with this, good for them. Anyone with a certain knowledge in crafting can do the same thing.


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If Harvest is encouraging more players to go SSF, it's a success. The trading aspect of this game is not enyoable at all.