[3.13] HERALD OF AGONY MANA GUARDIAN 2021 Build. ~20K ES. From Cheap to Expensive!

I am curious as to what makes this build so expensive.. Looking up the items for your end game setup, it won't cost more than a couple exalted orbs and some chaos.

I'm probably misunderstanding something here though

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BlueMayhem wrote:

I am curious as to what makes this build so expensive.. Looking up the items for your end game setup, it won't cost more than a couple exalted orbs and some chaos.

I'm probably misunderstanding something here though

Well, this wand alone is 10 ex. Not so sure you are good at pricing :)

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Angry_Roleplayer wrote:

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BlueMayhem wrote:

I am curious as to what makes this build so expensive.. Looking up the items for your end game setup, it won't cost more than a couple exalted orbs and some chaos.

I'm probably misunderstanding something here though

Well, than wand alone is 10 ex. Not so sure you are good at pricing :)

Another example:
U cant buy a helmet with the right enchantment, theres just none.
So if u wanna get the right helm enchantment u can try for year or pay someone.
Price for someone running the right enchant for u was ~40ex some days ago.

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Vengeful_Spirit wrote:

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Angry_Roleplayer wrote:

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BlueMayhem wrote:

I am curious as to what makes this build so expensive.. Looking up the items for your end game setup, it won't cost more than a couple exalted orbs and some chaos.

I'm probably misunderstanding something here though

Well, than wand alone is 10 ex. Not so sure you are good at pricing :)

Another example:
U cant buy a helmet with the right enchantment, theres just none.
So if u wanna get the right helm enchantment u can try for year or pay someone.
Price for someone running the right enchant for u was ~40ex some days ago.

This is my current problem with the build, there isnt enough reserve left without the helmet enhance to turn on the bots... plus that watcher eye jewel is super expensive with a high roll. So i replaced the shield with an ageis and slotted an empower 4 gem to get 3 spectres and drop a ring and got crabbies so shouldn't need hatred anymore and turned on the bots. i was way too squishy and then i put on a bated breath belt and a cogwork ring to regain lost strength mana and resist.

We did discuss the use of Primal Crushclaw instead of Stoneskin Flayer.
In fact of tankiness Primal Crushclaw are better and much easier to get.

Normally we do lightning Damage to Trigger EE to make the cold damage by hatred stronger.
Now i saw that Primal Crushclaw do Cold-Damage.
Can this be a problem with EE? It is a problem, right?

The next question is similar:
Im thinking about adding Raze and Pillage. Can this also be a bad choice cause of EE?

Edit: EE can only be activated by player himself when i understand the wiki right?


Last question:
Im using endgamesetup with Skeletons. So no more WITHERING TOUCH.
Im thinking about adding Skeletal Atrophy to get the wither damage boost again.
The Sekleton Army should be able to give every boss 15 Stacks, right?

I'm hoping to set this up with skitterbots and I'm using 1 medium, 1 small cluster jewels.
I picked up the -30% discipline reservation passive and 20% hatred effect one on medium jewels.

I'm wondering what 2 are best on a small jewel:
Will shaper for big def boost
Openness for big es / Mana boost
Stalwart Commander for 30% discipline effect boost
Raze and Pillage to add an ignite mechanic
Rotten Claws to add impale mechanic

Or I can pick up a 1 passive No Witnesses jewel.

Was the new Whakatutuki shield nerfed? Switching between this version in POB and the current one causes some serious ES/damage drops

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Khelevandros wrote:

Was the new Whakatutuki shield nerfed? Switching between this version in POB and the current one causes some serious ES/damage drops

i think they nerfed aura efficiency

Ahh that would make a lot of sense. Guess the build has taken some hits over the last few patches.

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Khelevandros wrote:

Ahh that would make a lot of sense. Guess the build has taken some hits over the last few patches.

Yeah they nerfed ES a lot and then they killed the jewels and then the auras. Blame aura stackers for that