3.7 Man Mode 2H Frost blades Voidforge Champion 3M DPS - Cheap - Deathless Uber Elder

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stellarstar wrote:
3 questions :

1) we convert 100% phys dmg to cold dmg + extra 300% of phys dmg gained as random element from voidforge

also voidforge says cannot deal non-elemental dmg

then how do we leech from using blood rage which says leech from "physical attack damage" ?


2) any cheaper alternatives to 80% maxres loreweave ? like belly for more life or str armor for dmg mitigation and then try to fit abyssus

3) did you try consecrated path with this champion tree ? Think it could work ?


ty for answers


1: We leech from the node "BLood drinker"

2: If you're gonna use Abyssus, you need to sacrifice damage for for more hp and physical mitigation.
And when you've done that, you'll be at the same damage as with starkonja before.
There might be some way to do it, but i dont think champion is the choice then.

3: I did not.
You will lose out on 10% of your physical damage tho, Conc path only converts 50%, Frost blades converts 60%.
But im sure it will have enough damage anyways.
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Raazen wrote:
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stellarstar wrote:
3 questions :

1) we convert 100% phys dmg to cold dmg + extra 300% of phys dmg gained as random element from voidforge

also voidforge says cannot deal non-elemental dmg

then how do we leech from using blood rage which says leech from "physical attack damage" ?


2) any cheaper alternatives to 80% maxres loreweave ? like belly for more life or str armor for dmg mitigation and then try to fit abyssus

3) did you try consecrated path with this champion tree ? Think it could work ?


ty for answers


1: We leech from the node "BLood drinker"

2: If you're gonna use Abyssus, you need to sacrifice damage for for more hp and physical mitigation.
And when you've done that, you'll be at the same damage as with starkonja before.
There might be some way to do it, but i dont think champion is the choice then.

3: I did not.
You will lose out on 10% of your physical damage tho, Conc path only converts 50%, Frost blades converts 60%.
But im sure it will have enough damage anyways.


Ty for the quick reply


1) yes I know that blood drinker is also providing leech but the question is why do we use blood rage if we are not leeching from it ? since it comes with a hefty degen. just for the frenzy charges ?

Does the build absolutely need the frenzy charges from blood rage to work ?


just trying to understand the logic of the build

2) not necessarily to use abyssus. The question is really : Can the build work as well with something cheaper than Loreweave 80% ? even loreweave 78-79% or stack more life with belly or good rares.
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stellarstar wrote:
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Raazen wrote:
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stellarstar wrote:
3 questions :

1) we convert 100% phys dmg to cold dmg + extra 300% of phys dmg gained as random element from voidforge

also voidforge says cannot deal non-elemental dmg

then how do we leech from using blood rage which says leech from "physical attack damage" ?


2) any cheaper alternatives to 80% maxres loreweave ? like belly for more life or str armor for dmg mitigation and then try to fit abyssus

3) did you try consecrated path with this champion tree ? Think it could work ?


ty for answers


1: We leech from the node "BLood drinker"

2: If you're gonna use Abyssus, you need to sacrifice damage for for more hp and physical mitigation.
And when you've done that, you'll be at the same damage as with starkonja before.
There might be some way to do it, but i dont think champion is the choice then.

3: I did not.
You will lose out on 10% of your physical damage tho, Conc path only converts 50%, Frost blades converts 60%.
But im sure it will have enough damage anyways.


Ty for the quick reply


1) yes I know that blood drinker is also providing leech but the question is why do we use blood rage if we are not leeching from it ? since it comes with a hefty degen. just for the frenzy charges ?

Does the build absolutely need the frenzy charges from blood rage to work ?


just trying to understand the logic of the build

2) not necessarily to use abyssus. The question is really : Can the build work as well with something cheaper than Loreweave 80% ? even loreweave 78-79% or stack more life with belly or good rares.


Blood rage provides with alot of attack speed also(not from frenzy charges).
Im using it for clear speed mostly, but the attack speed is also great for bosses.

You can use any armor you'd like, Loreweave is not mandatory.
It is the best armor in the game imo, thats why im using it.

Belly of the beast is so lackluster nowadays because of the Elder/Temple mods.
You can use it ofc if you dont have any other option, but i would rather use a 76-79% loreweave over those.
Last edited by Raazen on Jan 28, 2019, 7:33:06 AM
Ty so much for sharing the build and answers to questions !
Any way you could link your skill tree so we can see where you decided to go?
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Jackilope wrote:
Any way you could link your skill tree so we can see where you decided to go?


Its all in the guide, first spoiler.
There is also a leveling part further down.
I came up with what I think is a better skill tree setup and i am here to share it with you guys. It's significantly more tanky with this setup and actually does more dps to.

https://pastebin.com/5izjZfuG
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I came up with what I think is a better skill tree setup and i am here to share it with you guys. It's significantly more tanky with this setup and actually does more dps to.

https://pastebin.com/5izjZfuG


Thats for level 100, you're using 8(10 from bandits)more points.
Last edited by Raazen on Feb 1, 2019, 3:39:14 AM
hello, i've been using this build for 5 days, and reach level 81,

i have question,

how to block ignite?



flask number 1 to immune freeze and chill
flask number 2 to immune bleeding
flask number 3 for lion's roar
flask number 4 for remove curse and lucky critical
flask number 5 for wise oak

now i have to choose beetween wise oak or remove ignite.

thx



my pob dps now reach almost 500k

still have room to improve,
gem level 21 and 20% quality.


the problem now is the Life, i only have 3,8k life at level 81, because i took damage node,

next level i will take life node.
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stevehayden wrote:
hello, i've been using this build for 5 days, and reach level 81,

i have question,

how to block ignite?



flask number 1 to immune freeze and chill
flask number 2 to immune bleeding
flask number 3 for lion's roar
flask number 4 for remove curse and lucky critical
flask number 5 for wise oak

now i have to choose beetween wise oak or remove ignite.

thx



my pob dps now reach almost 500k

still have room to improve,
gem level 21 and 20% quality.


the problem now is the Life, i only have 3,8k life at level 81, because i took damage node,

next level i will take life node.


Ignite/burning was never any issue, Loreweave helps mitigate it.

You're missing life on almost every part of your gear except the unique ones.

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